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Old 01-09-2009, 08:53 PM
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Oh my god, i don't know if we all can just get along, but who is that on your avator?
Don't do that man, hot hot hot
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You broke up with her right? what did she do? not iron your trowsers?
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Eric we should stop posting regarding this issue, it's way too sensitive for too many people arround here, we are gonna end up with some sort ..............stickers
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You broke up with her right? what did she do? not iron your trowsers?
no ..... more like, she dislikes Bimmers...... I had to choose .... enough said .....
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Heck if that was my GF I'd be sleepless as well
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no ..... more like, she dislikes Bimmers...... I had to choose .... enough said .....
aaaaaaaaaah, bad choice man, if i had a girlfriend like that, i would not mind driving a Russian Lada
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Bottom line. Israel is responding to being provoked and attacked by radicals who have threatened to kill every last Jew and they will not rest until Israel no longer exists.

If Hamas and the dozen other terrorist Islamic groups decided they had enough of the bloodshed and vowed to work together for a better Middle-East the entire region would inch toward the 20th century instead of being stuck in their twisted 14th century mindset.

If on the other-hand they do nothing and Israel announces that they are done with the bloodshed and lay down their arms what do you think the response would be from Radical Islam?

I'll tell you...Praise Allah, Death to Israel.

How about some intellectual honesty from those of you who condemn Israel and support Hamas and the actions of other militant Islamic groups.

If Hamas stops all violence and threats Israel will stop and ease the restriction in place to protect them. If Israel stops the violence from Hamas will escalate.
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How about some intellectual honesty from those of you who condemn Israel and support Hamas and the actions of other militant Islamic groups.
OK, here is some intellectual honesty. It is perfectly reasonable to condemn Israel for its actions in Gaza while not supporting the actions of Hamas. I do not support Israel's actions in Gaza, coincidentally the same position recently taken by the UN. That is not a vote for Hamas or their terrorist acts. I do not support Hamas. I am trying to be really clear here.

It is illogical to assume that condemnation of Israel is a vote of support for Hamas.
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OK, here is some intellectual honesty. It is perfectly reasonable to condemn Israel for its actions in Gaza while not supporting the actions of Hamas. I do not support Israel's actions in Gaza, coincidentally the same position recently taken by the UN. That is not a vote for Hamas or their terrorist acts. I do not support Hamas. I am trying to be really clear here.

It is illogical to assume that condemnation of Israel is a vote of support for Hamas.
I'm not asking you to support the actions of Israel but I am asking you to understand the stark reality of the situation.

Israel WOULD stop all violence if Hamas and those who call for the destruction of Israel would cease the hostility toward Israel. Do you doubt this to be true? If Hamas and those like them announced they were going to stop the attacks and sit at a peace table recognizing Israel I don't see how Israel could or would continue the war.

On the other hand is Israel were to lay down arms and cease all hostility while holding out the hand of peace do you really believe Hamas would welcome them with open arms and end their attacks?

Time for a reality check.
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I'm not asking you to support the actions of Israel but I am asking you to understand the stark reality of the situation.

Israel WOULD stop all violence if Hamas and those who call for the destruction of Israel would cease the hostility toward Israel. Do you doubt this to be true? If Hamas and those like them announced they were going to stop the attacks and sit at a peace table recognizing Israel I don't see how Israel could or would continue the war.

On the other hand is Israel were to lay down arms and cease all hostility while holding out the hand of peace do you really believe Hamas would welcome them with open arms and end their attacks?

Time for a reality check.
So i have a question, What if Arab world decides that having palestinian people as scapegoats for the rest of the world to see and making Israel look bad cause it kills arabs(palestinians) What if arab nations decide enough is enough and abliterate Israel? Just attack it full force, what will America do than? Or UN? Thats where we should not get, especially if Iran gets involved, and Russia helps Iran.
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