Jewish protest

[pski215]

Look at Gaza... one of the more densely populated areas and you have people that Hamas has not built shelters for.. you cannot blame Israel for killing civilians when if Hamas is the government they are responsible for the civilians. Lately I am seeing a lot of Palestinians more pissed that the Hamas leaders are hidden nice and snug in bunkers with food and electricity, or the founder in Syria chilling in 5 star hotels while they are taking the shit storm from the IDF. Israel did not vote Hamas into office, they did. They continued rocket attacks after the pull out of Gaza, then when the blockade was put in effect because they continuously shot rockets you would think they would come to some type of common sense that they would realize OHHH THATS WHY ISRAEL BLOCKADED US, MAYBE JUST MAYBE IF WE SMUGGLE BABY FOOD INSTEAD OF ROCKETS THEY WILL LIFT THE BLOCKADE. If Hamas was smuggling baby food into Gaza and Medical supplies into Gaza and showing Israel look we are creating the best government we can please lift the blockade so we can help our people, Israel would most likely lift the blockade. Attacking a sovereign nation that possesses one of those most elite armies in the world is not such a good idea, this is just training for many of the units inside of Gaza. Once the reserve units are fully embedded in Gaza Hamas is going to be dealing with a shit storm because they all have been in HEAVY combat.

[sleepless]

Originally Posted by MrLabGuy

Heck if that was my GF I'd be sleepless as well

Hence the "Name" ........... but in the end very High Maintenance .... the actual ownership was much higher then a Bimmer ....... but the ride was awesome ........

[jigaro]

Originally Posted by sleepless

Hence the "Name" ........... but in the end very High Maintenance .... the actual ownership was much higher then a Bimmer ....... but the ride was awesome ........

Was it airstruts?

[sleepless]

Originally Posted by jigaro

Was it airstruts?

Actually ..... it was adjustable ..... dial mode to 5 different settings

[Eric5273]

Originally Posted by MrLabGuy

If Hamas stops all violence and threats Israel will stop and ease the restriction in place to protect them.

That is a lie.

Hamas stopped the rocket attacks for 6 months during the cease-fire, and Israel did not ease any of the restrictions.

[pski215]

hey Eric i can verify 100% they did not, I was in Southern Israel over the summer for over a week staying at a friend's house and 5 out of the 7 days I was there I spent time in the bomb shelter. Do not try to prove facts you have no knowledge on.

[Eric5273]

As long as we are talking about terrorism and Israel, I'm surprised (no I'm actually not) that someone hasn't posted something about the Levon Affair....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

The Lavon Affair refers to the scandal over a failed Israeli covert operation in Egypt known as Operation Susannah, in which Israeli military intelligence planted bombs in Egyptian, American and British-owned targets in Egypt in the summer of 1954 in the hopes that "the Muslim Brotherhood, the Communists, 'unspecified malcontents' or 'local nationalists'" would be blamed.[1] It became known as the Lavon Affair after the Israeli defense minister Pinhas Lavon, who was forced to resign because of the incident, or euphemistically as the Unfortunate Affair (Hebrew: העסק הביש‎, HaEsek HaBish). Israel admitted responsibility in 2005 when Israeli President Moshe Katzav honored the nine Egyptian Jewish agents who were involved.[2]

[ylwjacket]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

As long as we are talking about terrorism and Israel, I'm surprised (no I'm actually not) that someone hasn't posted something about the Levon Affair....

I thought that was an Elton John song.

[Eric5273]

Originally Posted by pski215

hey Eric i can verify 100% they did not, I was in Southern Israel over the summer for over a week staying at a friend's house and 5 out of the 7 days I was there I spent time in the bomb shelter. Do not try to prove facts you have no knowledge on.

Every rocket that comes out of Gaza is not a Hamas rocket. During the 6 month cease fire Islamic Jihad continued to fire rockets, and a number of their leaders were arrested and even put in jail by the Hamas government.



The source of this chart is the Israeli consulate in NYC. As you can see, after the first 2 months of the cease-fire, Hamas did a pretty darn good job of stopping rocket fire, even considering they don't have the tools that most governments and law-enforcement agencies have.

[Eric5273]

Originally Posted by B-Line

Do you also realize that Hamas has stated, that even if Israel gave them EVERYTHING they wanted (the obvious exception being the destruction of Israel.) - That Hamas has said, they still would not recognize the right to a Jewish state under any circumstances

Another lie.

Hamas has agreed to the terms of the Arab Peace Initiative which including recognizing Israel's right to exist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative