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Old 06-26-2009, 12:33 PM
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Yep. Very obvious, huh?

Audi is a distant second.
yes.


thats cool......
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Old 06-26-2009, 12:40 PM
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I still remember watching an episode of Top Gear where the Holden/Pontiac spanked the M5 also...that Corvette motor is a potent little beast.
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Old 06-26-2009, 12:49 PM
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I still remember watching an episode of Top Gear where the Holden/Pontiac spanked the M5 also...that Corvette motor is a potent little beast.
the Pontiac spanked it too! BMW better put that twin in there fast...
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Old 06-26-2009, 01:29 PM
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I knew it! Their business case must've made perfect sense, and it will be fuel efficient. It made sense to me that if BMW & MgmbH could develop such impressive performance with the X5 & X6 ///M...I could only imagine what they would accomplish with a lighter vehicle
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you should go drive a CTS-V. Magnetic ride control which derived from the vette is an awesome setup. The CTS-V is not just a straight line performance car. The Ferrari f430 and 599 are also using pretty much a very similar system as the vette for the shocks. The whole point here is BMW are not the only carmaker that makes great cars. It's good for all us as competition drives innovation. Blindly following a marque and bashing the marque as a whole is stupid and pure ignorance.



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I hear you, but bashing the current M5 for not having a ton of torque is silly seeing as it is based on the heritage of pretty much every M car before it, not only M5's, which typically means a quick accelerating car (not drag racer) with very balanced performance/handling characteristics and a high revving engine. Even going back to the original e30 M3, which came to life high in the revs. I had an e30 325e that was a fairly torquey car and for everyday driving there was a noticeable difference between that and the e30 M3.

I don't know what else to say. If you want a stop light drag racer, the CTS-V and MB's are probably better choices at the present time. We will see where BMW goes with the new TT M engines and the torque numbers that follow. Maybe that low torque, high revving heritage is a thing of the past. If so, there will be as many people upset with that as there are happy with it though.
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:47 PM
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you should go drive a CTS-V. Magnetic ride control which derived from the vette is an awesome setup. The CTS-V is not just a straight line performance car. The Ferrari f430 and 599 are also using pretty much a very similar system as the vette for the shocks. The whole point here is BMW are not the only carmaker that makes great cars. It's good for all us as competition drives innovation. Blindly following a marque and bashing the marque as a whole is stupid and pure ignorance.

I am not personally interested in the CTS-V, but thanks. I do like other brands, I just happen to prefer BMW over the others. I also never said that other manufacturers didn't make nice cars, but thanks for putting words in my mouth. I do completely agree that competition is a good thing as we will all probably see when the new M5 debuts. I gave the Caddy credit in my first post in this thread when I said "Enjoy it while you can Caddy". If the CTS-V wasn't strong, direct competition, I wouldn't have said anything. It is common knowledge that it is the sedan to beat at the moment.

At the end of the day, this is a BMW board, so I am not going to apologize for having loyalty to the brand. Every time I have been interested in another brand of car and I have test driven it, I have come away with the feeling that it was missing something that I could get in a comparably priced BMW. That is just me personally though and that is where I am coming from. The M5 and the CTS-V go about their business in two different ways and I happen to prefer the M5. That's it. Perhaps you don't feel that way and that is fine by me. For instance, why do you have loyalty to Ferrari instead of other brands?

Maybe you didn't do enough research upfront before you bought your M5 and you didn't realize what M motors/cars were all about and that is why you were dissapointed with the tourqless, slow, horrible sounding motor.

Look, we are never going to agree. You have stated it many times that the M5 is garbage and I think it is a pretty sweet car. Not much else to say really.
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Wait, are you saying even a X6 ///M can spank the E60 ///M5?
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He's saying even your neighbor's daughter's Yaris can spank the E60 M5.

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Wait, are you saying even a X6 ///M can spank the E60 ///M5?
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He's saying even your neighbor's daughter's Yaris can spank the E60 M5.

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Oh my god, the most great news I heard lately about BMW!
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