Ac not working, Checked Refrigerant, What else to do?

[Quicksilver]

Thank you for your opinion. I appreciated it.
I meant no offense but I stand by my comment.

Originally Posted by bcredliner

It is an assumption to draw any conclusion as to OPs financial wherewithal , DIY capability, ability to make an informed purchase decision or rational for a course of action, and, to characterize based on an assumption is illogical at best.

[Quicksilver]

My point exactly. An old X5 is still a complicated system made more complex
by the additional issues that can come up which may or may not effect the
initial problem. So yes, they still can't afford to take it in for repairs but not
being able to get a complicated issue diagnosed by an expert before trying
to tackle the problem doesn't seem to be a good use of time or resources
unless this X5 is gonna be your long term fix it project.

I still wish the OP success but I've been down the AC not working route
and in my experience without proper tools and knowledge there is no easy fix.

Originally Posted by upallnight

People are purchasing 16 years olds X5 because they have dropped in value that they are now Cheap enough for the minimum wage workers to buy one. A X5 that is not in top condition is even cheaper. They may be able to buy a Cheap X5, but they still can't afford to take it in for repairs so they resort to DIY even if they don't know anything about cars. Replacing the refrigerant because it is old tells me that they have no business diying an automotive ac system.

[upallnight]

Here's a video on why you need to get a car scan if you are having ac problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR00sam7WcM

And here's a screen shot of BMW Scanner 1.4 viewing live data for ac system in a BMW.

[shevin]

Originally Posted by upallnight

Here's a video on why you need to get a car scan if you are having ac problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR00sam7WcM

And here's a screen shot of BMW Scanner 1.4 viewing live data for ac system in a BMW.

does that require a computer ? is there any bluetooth version that works with my phone ?

I already bought a generic bluettooth obd2, and I also bought toruqe pro app. can I use it with my phone?

[upallnight]

BMW Scanner 1.4 only runs on a window computer. You can get a window xp machine really cheap these days. I use a Sony laptop as my dedicated diagnostic computer for my X5.

carly is an Android app for BMW. You must buy their bluetooth adapter in order to run the program on your tablet or phone. I believe they have a wifi app for eye-phone users. Since I already have a BMW specific program, I never bother to buy Carly for BMW.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by upallnight

Whose demeaning??? I have always stated on this board that if you don't know how to fix a car and don't have the resource to bring it in that a used X is probably not the right car for you. A lot of noob doesn't realize the cost of maintaining/fixing a Marque car. They assume it's German Engineered and should last forever, and if it does break it couldn't be more than what it cost to fix a Chevy or Toyota.

OP could have brought a different car with the same amount of money but a couple of model years younger and perhaps with a warranty. It may not have the Marque name BMW but at least it would have a working AC.

You may think that telling a noob that he should stick with the car is fine, but I normally tell them what they are in for and let them decide whether to keep or sell. A good example is this post in which I informed tdog05 that he probably needed to have the trans rebuilt. Other people told him to do a drain and filter replacement. A filter and drain is at least 800 bucks if he used ZF ATF instead of some cheap ATF found at Pep girl. Most likely he follow my advice and dumped the X because he is no longer posting on this board.

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...ml#post1026647

Now this OP has brought a replacement fan and the ac still doesn't worked. If he followed my advice about getting the X scan he might have saved the cost of a replacement fan. I provided him with a source to get a BMW specific software but you criticize it as being a hacked. Are you aware that P.A. Soft the developer of BMW Scanner 1.4 give out a working copy of their software on their website? They just require that you purchase the interface from them. I suppose your copy of INPA is a genuine copy and not a hacked copy. Unless you know for sure it was a hacked copy I would refrain from making comments on it.

Someone who doesn't know what a carb is or what points are is how I profile someone who started driving in the 90's.

When a member asks for help, we should provide help. They have already purchased the X5 so telling them they have made a mistake is not helpful and I feel it is certainly not the way to welcome new owners.

Click on view detail. It says near the top of the detail that it is a "cracked" version. I don't know if the seller thinks cracked is the same as hacked. Might be fine, don't have a clue but it also states you may have to turn off anti-virus to download.

As you know, transmission symptoms can be misleading and Tdog05 may have needed a transmission rebuild but just as in the case of an air-conditioning issue the best course of action we could recommend is to have an expert diagnosis the problem.

FYI--No, I got my license decades prior to the 90s but I wish that was true and of course it would have no bearing on what I know about engines.

I don't think profiling anyone based on assumptions, very few at that, then responding accordingly is ever a good decision.

BTW, I sincerely enjoyed the video and think it was a great contribution.

[oldskewel]

Originally Posted by upallnight

Here's a video on why you need to get a car scan if you are having ac problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR00sam7WcM

Great video, thanks for posting it. Fun to watch, and educational for me.

But I think the debugging process and success in that case did not rely on the scan tool. It required a basic understanding of the AC system, knowing what relay to check, etc. If one were already in possession of, and proficient with the tool (like that awesome mechanic is), it would make things easier. But just the tool without the knowledge might not help much.

I'm not advising against scanners at all, but I think in that case with that root cause failure, a good mechanic could have solved it following the same steps as the mechanic, but doing it all without the scanner.

The magic that does not seem to exist there (yet?) would be something that would plug in and, for example, in the OP's case, run a diagnostic test on the fan before he goes and buys a new one to plug in. Just like diagnostics on a PC (that costs half as much as that fan).

[Gardar Rafnsson]

Hi. I have similar problem earlier, that was the clutch on the AC pump was not working, some bolt where loos.

[upallnight]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

When a member asks for help, we should provide help. They have already purchased the X5 so telling them they have made a mistake is not helpful and I feel it is certainly not the way to welcome new owners.

Click on view detail. It says near the top of the detail that it is a "cracked" version. I don't know if the seller thinks cracked is the same as hacked. Might be fine, don't have a clue but it also states you may have to turn off anti-virus to download.

As you know, transmission symptoms can be misleading and Tdog05 may have needed a transmission rebuild but just as in the case of an air-conditioning issue the best course of action we could recommend is to have an expert diagnosis the problem.

FYI--No, I got my license decades prior to the 90s but I wish that was true and of course it would have no bearing on what I know about engines.

I don't think profiling anyone based on assumptions, very few at that, then responding accordingly is ever a good decision.

BTW, I sincerely enjoyed the video and think it was a great contribution.

If you look at my 4300 plus posts, you will see that 90% of them are about me helping people solve their problems that they have encounter with their BMW.

From telling them what could be their problems from the limited info that they provided to identifying parts that they have no ideal where it came off, to helping local BMW owners scan their car for free and telling them what needs to be done to fix their BMW.

You may not think that profiling anyone based on assumptions is ever a good ideal, but I am not alone in my profiling. If you think profiling is bad how about a noob that you tried to help post on your user cp that you are a know it all Doucbe Bag because he didn't like my reply to his problem.

Hopefully next year I'll be on the Cayenne forum instead of the E53 forum.

[bcredliner]

It' not the 90%. It's about the 10%.

You are certainly not the only one profiling though I don't interpret someone lashing out because they are unhappy with something I've posted as profiling.

We always have a choice as to whether we respond to new thread or not, whether we respond like the 90% or the 10% as well as what forum we choose to participate.

I'm done--you are welcome to the last word.

Shevin, where do you stand on resolving your problem? I wouldn't buy any more new parts until the problem is pinpointed by diagnosis or troubleshooting. On the troubleshooting side--have you verified the replacement aux fan comes on for a short time after you first start you X up? Have you turned on the air-conditioning to see if the fan comes on shortly after? Have you verified the compressor clutch engages when the air-conditioning is turned on?