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02-22-2010, 07:10 AM
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It happened to me again.. Two times in less than two months.!!!
See this thread.... http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...weather-4.html
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02-23-2010, 12:19 PM
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CurtisD: Were you doing all dealer maint and inspections? That is super unfortunate. Good work keeping it from burning to the ground.
To answer your question, in my opinion the safeguard against failure in the BMW business model generally seems to me to be routine dealer maintenance, followed by trading in of higher mileage but still CPO acceptable cars for a new or CPO model. If your dealership didn't catch an obvious and massive oil leak that turned into an engine fire that would be bad. But it is just as likely ( and easily defendable) that it happened between the airport and the gas station, unless you could prove chronic oil loss. Specifically on the separator system, there will be no codes, and need not be poor running conditions (other than excess oil consumption) that would indicate pending separator failure. The reinforcement pan on the underside of the X5 will hold several quarts of oil before you get any drips where you park, but you would have to run your hand in it blind to check for oil to find the signs of a big leak even if you knew this. So unless a PCV-related oil leak manifests itself where it will cause smoking, like the low side of the valve cover gasket over the manifolds, you wouldn't know...especially if you do not change your own oil and you don't know your car is 2-3 quarts low at a 3000 mile change, or more at a 5000 mile change. Considering my oil light only comes on when I am at least 4 quarts down, that is feasible. Add the normal consumption rate for these cars, and it gets very vague quickly and could easily be regarded as normal. My separator has failed twice. I had a leaking VCG when I bought my car, and I replaced it and the separator. What I didn't know is that my pan gasket was also shot, and any overpressure from the failled CCV would just push oil past that. On the upside, it doesn't blow VCGs or anything else now, and is less fire prone because the leaking oil lives on the reinforcement plate. That belly pan was full of old oil when I took it off, and that was how i figured this all out. FWIW, the plastic hose / cyclone valve design is dodgy especially in the cold, but in theory it outperforms conventional low maintenance, cheap systems hands down at its intended purpose. It is a replaceable part though, as are many things BMW makes that other manufacturers will use a 100k mile part for instead.
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02-23-2010, 01:23 PM
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Appreciate all the input guys. BMWNA has come to bat, as I just got off the phone from a rep minutes ago. They are covering a tow and BMW diagnostic, as well as going to work on my insurance company to cover the claim. I was ready to write off BMW when I was told I would get a call in 1-3 DAYS after reporting the incident. Still a bit hesitant but the call today did renew a little faith in my beloved BMW brand.
lo jack: the last service inspection came I believe in October when I had new tires put on. It came up clean for any issues. I do my own oil changes and still had roughly 1,000 miles to go on this service. I do check my oil level regularly and have not been running low or even had a noticeable decrease in the oil level.
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02-23-2010, 04:54 PM
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Best of luck with this Curtis, and keep us posted.
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03-07-2010, 08:44 PM
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Just wanted to add my recent experience with oil separator issues on our 2005 3.0 Sport. Last summer at around the 70k mark, we got an oil level low warning. Took it into BMW of Morristown where the CCV was replaced under the CPO warranty. Fast forward to 2 weeks ago when the oil level warning came back on again. Checked oil level on the dipstick and it was several quarts low. More tellingly, there was peanut butter sludge buildup on the inside of the filler cap.
Back to BMW of Morristown where they now claim that 2-3 qts of consumption is normal. Despite my assertion that that level of consumption is not normal and description of the sludge, they proceeded to brush off my concerns and simply filled it with oil (overfilled to be correct). It was obvious that BMW of Morristown could no longer be trusted so I took the vehicle to Circle BMW in Eatontown, NJ almost 1hr away. My service advisor Tim Meritzis actually listened to the symptoms and had the techs run a pressure test that indicated imminent failure or failure. The CCV and updated hoses were replaced under CPO. He didn't even charge me the $50 CPO co-pay as this was a redo of work improperly performed by BMW of Morristown. It pays to have a good dealer and service adviser that won't blow you off and will take the time and effort to diagnose the issues properly.
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03-07-2010, 09:09 PM
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03-07-2010, 09:13 PM
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Consider installing a heated intake manifold. If you want the parts list let me know.
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03-07-2010, 09:42 PM
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Yes I'm very interested in this. Can you do a write up for the N62? Can you also take a look at post # 76+ on this thread:
http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e53-forum...ue-06-a-8.html Quote:
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