Any 35D Owners install this performance tune?

[JCL]

Originally Posted by Kloogy

So you're going to validate this guy as a legit " tuner from the UK "? If he's a tuner, I would be afraid of what he would to my vehicle. FYI, I have not purchased anything from Burger, or any other tuner. My E60, E92, and now my E70 have not been modified with a tune. So if you are implying that I am shilling for a certain manufacturer, you are very wrong. What I do see is someone coming in to defame a company and it's product. Someone who obviously has very little knowledge. That has been already exposed by the erroneous statements that he has made.

It's wrong to lump any one of these companies mentioned so far, with Ebay tunes. This guy thinks because the breakdown of the cost of parts is 40 bucks, that the company should charge 45 bucks for it. I don't know how the economy is in his land, but in the United States we are firm believers in capitalism. Companies put money into research, testing etc. Ask any aftermarket company that has had to have a part CARB certified in California, how much they spent. If you are willing to come on a forum and make irresponsible claims, then I will call you what you are. If you don't like it, too bad. I bet the companies that have sunk thousands of dollars into developing these products don't appreciate being called Cheap Ebay Tuners.

I called him a tuner. No comment on legitimacy, qualifications, or anything else. I have nothing to evaluate him on other than these posts.

I don't think you are shilling, as I don't know your relationship with BMS, so it wouldn't be a fair charge. I think your own post on the BMS site portrays your position quite accurately, something to the effect that bad people were saying bad things about the BMS products on another site (xoutpost), and that Terry needed to give you a picture so that you could shut it down.

When you tried to get me to rate the vendors, I commented on three of the better known ones, and said we should lump all the ebay sellers in a separate category. I thought that was quite clear.

I think it is misleading to suggest that these tunes have CARB certification.

What I have observed is that promoters and fans tend to get quite excited about these sorts of products. For another example, just read about Sprintbooster here or on many other forums . In the case of Aidan, he apparently thinks of tunes as either remaps, or something much less than that, and he lumps all piggyback devices together. That is his prerogative. I don't happen to agree, but I don't see a reason to start calling him names. Calling someone Lucky Charms reflects on you as much as it does on him IMO

[Aidan]

Originally Posted by JCL

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In the case of Aidan, he apparently thinks of tunes as either remaps, or something much less than that, and he lumps all piggyback devices together. That is his prerogative.

Any device that fools the ECU is crude and wrong in my opinion. I also do not advise anybody to tune their car that way.

It is the customers choice whether they want to tune their car via fitting a device that fools the ECU or whether they want a flash remap or a custom flash remap.

I did post my advise and my opinions on this thread of products and how they operated. I did not come on here to slate the names of companies.

[Kloogy]

Originally Posted by JCL

I called him a tuner. No comment on legitimacy, qualifications, or anything else. I have nothing to evaluate him on other than these posts.

I don't think you are shilling, as I don't know your relationship with BMS, so it wouldn't be a fair charge. I think your own post on the BMS site portrays your position quite accurately, something to the effect that bad people were saying bad things about the BMS products on another site (xoutpost), and that Terry needed to give you a picture so that you could shut it down.

When you tried to get me to rate the vendors, I commented on three of the better known ones, and said we should lump all the ebay sellers in a separate category. I thought that was quite clear.

I think it is misleading to suggest that these tunes have CARB certification.

What I have observed is that promoters and fans tend to get quite excited about these sorts of products. For another example, just read about Sprintbooster here or on many other forums . In the case of Aidan, he apparently thinks of tunes as either remaps, or something much less than that, and he lumps all piggyback devices together. That is his prerogative. I don't happen to agree, but I don't see a reason to start calling him names. Calling someone Lucky Charms reflects on you as much as it does on him IMO

Where did I say they have CARB certifications ? I mentioned that if anyone here has ever dealt with having a product approved through CARB, that they would see the cost of doing such a thing. I know because I was involved with a company who designed a product for Mustang Modular motors that does have a CARB certification. It was a fancy way to say " Bribe the State of California to the tune of thousands of dollars to give you a sticker "....That's all I referenced. I don't think any of these guys have CARB numbers. If they did, the 400 tune would be 1200 bucks. I'll call him Lucky Charms, a drunk and anything else I want because he is irresponsible enough to attack a company without knowledge. If he were just giving his opinion, that's a different story.

[Jim E.]

Originally Posted by SJCFlyer

Wow! This seems to have gone from a discussion to something much more intense (right or wrong). Overall, I would rate this thread

+1!!

[Kloogy]

If I go through my office and post how many items that have resistors on them, will you care to call them cheap Ebay stuff ? Hey, I think my computer that generates CAD drawings for me has resistors in it. It must be cheap Ebay stuff. How about this drawing desk ? I think the illumination system on it has resistors on it, it must be cheap Ebay stuff !! I wonder if BMW in a wild scheme to produce cheap ebay stuff, used a resistor anywhere in my X5 ????? OMG !!!!!

[Aidan]

Originally Posted by Kloogy

If I go through my office and post how many items that have resistors on them, will you care to call them cheap Ebay stuff ? Hey, I think my computer that generates CAD drawings for me has resistors in it. It must be cheap Ebay stuff. How about this drawing desk ? I think the illumination system on it has resistors on it, it must be cheap Ebay stuff !! I wonder if BMW in a wild scheme to produce cheap ebay stuff, used a resistor anywhere in my X5 ????? OMG !!!!!

Please stop posting pointless un-constructive junk, they are not even funny just annoying to read. You think that because I am in Ireland that I am drinking scotch while posting, you talk about leprechauns and this Lucky Charm name calling crap,, please do get over yourself and grow up a bit.

I give my opinions on how tuning boxes work and their crude way of raising the fuel pressure and you jump on the bandwagon stating I have no knowledge.

[N55X5]

To the OP, what have you got to loose by trying it? You try it, if it does what's advertised then great.. If you don't like it you return the thing and get your money back. Plain and Simple...

Me I'm testing a tune for Terry on my N55 X5, Terry gave it to me Gratis and I get the added power, and it works as advertised. I can dial up or down the power how I see fit, and if I push it up to much of course It may cause damage and who's fault will it be, MINE, not Terry's and definately not BMW's.

I owned a Procede V4 for my 335xi when I had it, and that worked as advertised too... Never had a issue at the dealership (tuner codes or anything) and it definately provided a boost in power.

So I've sampled both major piggy tuners, and they both do what they say there products will do.

To Aidan.... I suggest you try the product before you knock it. It may just surprise you. And like I said to the OP, if it doesn't work for you, return the item, get your money back. Don't believe you wont get your money back, that's your problem. But they are a pretty well known company here in the states.

As for Kloogy's references to lucky charms, or drunk or whatever... I say whatever... Everyons entitled to their own whims, comments and opinions. As long as its not offensive.. I personally don't find it offensive, but then again I am neither a drunk or Irish, so my opinion on the matter, matters not.

Just my .02 cents... Take it or leave it, matters not to me

[Alpinedevil335]

Your making my day at work go by really fast... LOL.
What you can't seem to comprehend is that people including me use piggybacks with GREAT sucsess regardless of how they work, they get the job done. And get it done safely! It's not just a resistor there are other inner workings that you don't seem to understand. Again I've run a piggyback on my car for years and thousands of miles(like many others) and have not have any of the symptoms that you describe. Your comparing a legit tuning company's products to stuff you find on eBay? Come on guy!!
Do some research on the fastest 1/4 mile times set by 335's, you will find a large portion of them are running piggybacks. What does that tell you? Looks like these piggyback companies are doing something right.

[Kloogy]

Originally Posted by Alpinedevil335

Your making my day at work go by really fast... LOL.
What you can't seem to comprehend is that people including me use piggybacks with GREAT sucsess regardless of how they work, they get the job done. And get it done safely! It's not just a resistor there are other inner workings that you don't seem to understand. Again I've run a piggyback on my car for years and thousands of miles(like many others) and have not have any of the symptoms that you describe. Your comparing a legit tuning company's products to stuff you find on eBay? Come on guy!!
Do some research on the fastest 1/4 mile times set by 335's, you will find a large portion of them are running piggybacks. What does that tell you? Looks like these piggyback companies are doing something right.

He has devised a system that competes with these types of piggybacks, therefore his goal now is to log on to forums and trash the competition. I hope he registers on E90post and puts up this nonsense. Vishnu will have him castrated.

[Aidan]

Originally Posted by Kloogy

He has devised a system that competes with these types of piggybacks, therefore his goal now is to log on to forums and trash the competition. I hope he registers on E90post and puts up this nonsense. Vishnu will have him castrated.

How am I trying to trash the competition? I have told you so many times on this thread that I am not. I am merely trying to advise people on what is happening to their cars when a tuning box is fitted and that is the fact your ECU is been fooled.

Yes, I do offer a custom ecu remapping package which consists of a new interface the customer can read and write their own car with anywhere in the world. I don't use off the shelf tuned files, each file is custom tuned. I can cater my tunes to allow for DPF deletes and EGR deletes etc. I think it is fair to say that a proper custom ECU remap is much superior to a tuning box.
^ I am not here on this thread advertising, I am in discussion with admin regarding a vendor status. The above info is answering your post.

To the latter half of your post - Blah blah blah blah E90 post and put up this nonsense? What nonsense? Does it not make sense to you?

I would like to see you entering other forums with your name calling and childish posts you would be kicked off and banned for life.