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Old 10-03-2006, 03:17 AM
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connecting nokia e61 to bmw bluetooth with navigation

hello all,
i'm trying to find out how a few of you guys have been able to connect your nokia e61 smartphone to successfully pair with your bmw hands-free bluetooth system. i have a 2006 z4 m coupe with dvd navigation system MK IV 4/1-80 version 28 and the latest nokia e61 firmware update (Firmware 2.0618.06.05).

the phone can find the car and pair with the bmw bluetooh but the car's system never recognizes the phone and therefore no dialing can occur.

if you have been able to make it connect and make calls using the hands-free bluetooth system (EVEN if you can't transfer your contacts) pleaes document for everyone exactly what your system (car and phone) configuration is and what you did to connect, as detailed as possible.
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hello all,
i'm trying to find out how a few of you guys have been able to connect your nokia e61 smartphone to successfully pair with your bmw hands-free bluetooth system. i have a 2006 z4 m coupe with dvd navigation system MK IV 4/1-80 version 28 and the latest nokia e61 firmware update (Firmware 2.0618.06.05).

the phone can find the car and pair with the bmw bluetooh but the car's system never recognizes the phone and therefore no dialing can occur.

if you have been able to make it connect and make calls using the hands-free bluetooth system (EVEN if you can't transfer your contacts) pleaes document for everyone exactly what your system (car and phone) configuration is and what you did to connect, as detailed as possible.
thanks
Go to http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/bluetooth....html#tabletop You will see that your 'phone is not listed. I had this problem earlier this year with a Nokia. Assuming you have the pairing code from your handbook just try & try again - but be patient - the pairing process as displayed on your Satnav screen can take upwards of 5 mins.
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Go to http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/bluetooth....html#tabletop You will see that your 'phone is not listed. I had this problem earlier this year with a Nokia. Assuming you have the pairing code from your handbook just try & try again - but be patient - the pairing process as displayed on your Satnav screen can take upwards of 5 mins.
yes i know it's not listed. however i've seen a couple of folks do it successfully. i want to see what their system specs are and exactly what they're doing. if you have had success please document your specs/steps for us. i've tried everything you can imagine and some more, no luck so far. but obviously a certain configuration / combination of factors allow this to work, i'm researching to find out what are those factors.
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Can you turn off your address book transfer? Or if not, can you delete all of your contacts and try it?

I just got a Pearl, and I imported all of my contacts from my Palm. I had alpha characters and other junk in my phone number fields, and I am pretty sure that this caused the car to drop the connection to the phone during the address book transfer. It worked fine when I turned off my address book transfer on the Pearl. The Blackberry worked great after I did a laborious contact database cleanup.
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Can you turn off your address book transfer? Or if not, can you delete all of your contacts and try it?

I just got a Pearl, and I imported all of my contacts from my Palm. I had alpha characters and other junk in my phone number fields, and I am pretty sure that this caused the car to drop the connection to the phone during the address book transfer. It worked fine when I turned off my address book transfer on the Pearl. The Blackberry worked great after I did a laborious contact database cleanup.
hi brian,
my car never picks up the phone, never asks for the pk number, so it doesn't even get to the point of contacts tranfer. that happens after the car picks up the phone, which is not happening in my case.

i have seen one case where someone in germany with a 530xd 2006 and dvd navigation idrive system has been able to connect. and another person here i'm trying to find out their system specs.
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the phone can find the car and pair with the bmw bluetooh but the car's system never recognizes the phone and therefore no dialing can occur.
OK, that's a different problem. When I read your original description above, I thought that you were able to pair with the car OK, but then it would not work after the pairing.
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Sorry bimerrr - my 'phone is a 6230i. I had exactly the same problems as you & was tearing my hair out for 3 days!! What eventually cured the problem was after pairing, when the screen said "Activate Phone" I removed the cell from it's cradle, switched it off, waited a couple of minutes then switched the cell back on - & PRESTO it worked..... May not work for you though.... Just try it. Rgds.
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Sorry bimerrr - my 'phone is a 6230i. I had exactly the same problems as you & was tearing my hair out for 3 days!! What eventually cured the problem was after pairing, when the screen said "Activate Phone" I removed the cell from it's cradle, switched it off, waited a couple of minutes then switched the cell back on - & PRESTO it worked..... May not work for you though.... Just try it. Rgds.
hi mike
can u please elaborate on the specific order? you turn ignition key, the BT goes into discovery mode, then car asks for the phone pairing or phone asks to be paried with car's Bluetooth firsrt? also you first enter the pass key in the phone, then the car? or car asks for the passkey first, then you turn the phone off/on then put in the PK in the phone? i know it's alot of Questions, but please elaborate on the steps if you would. many thanks in advance.
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This is the process for pairing a BT phone with the car. Are you doing this, and what are you seeing at each step?

1. Turn the car off.
2. Push and hold the pairing button in the car for at least 1 second. (The pairing button is not the button on the steering wheel. It is a separate button on or near the phone cradle.)
3. Then, while continuing to hold down the pairing button, switch the car's ignition to position 1.
4. Continue to hold the BT pairing button down for another 2 to 3 seconds after you turn on the ignition.
4. Release the BT pairing button.
5. At this point, the car's nav or MID screen should display "BLUETOOTH PAIRING.

Now, it is time to tell the phone to pair to the car. These steps are different for every phone, so just follow the general steps.

1. Go to the connection or Bluetooth setup menu and find a place where the phone would add a Bluetooth headset.
2. Select an option that looks something like find new devices or add new devices. (You are not making the phone discoverable. You just put the car in discoverable mode above, so the phone must find the car.)
3. The phone will probably show some type of searching screen, then it will display a list of available BT devices that it found.
4. Select the "BMW ULF" option.
5. Your phone will probably then ask for a confirmation and then prompt you for the BT passcode.
6. Enter the passcode printed on the car's Bluetooth module.
7. The phone may then ask you for a confirmation to accept a BT connect to the car, after you enter the passcode. If so, try to select a "YES" or "NEVER ASK AGAIN" option on the phone.
7. The car will beep once to indicate that it has paired with your phone. And, the car will remain in pairing mode so that you can pair other phones, if you wish.
8. After you have paired the phone, turn off the ignition.
9. The ignition back on, and within about 30 seconds, the phone should indicate that it has connected with the car.
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This is the process for pairing a BT phone with the car. Are you doing this, and what are you seeing at each step?

1. Turn the car off.
2. Push and hold the pairing button in the car for at least 1 second. (The pairing button is not the button on the steering wheel. It is a separate button on or near the phone cradle.)
3. Then, while continuing to hold down the pairing button, switch the car's ignition to position 1.
4. Continue to hold the BT pairing button down for another 2 to 3 seconds after you turn on the ignition.
4. Release the BT pairing button.
5. At this point, the car's nav or MID screen should display "BLUETOOTH PAIRING.

Now, it is time to tell the phone to pair to the car. These steps are different for every phone, so just follow the general steps.

1. Go to the connection or Bluetooth setup menu and find a place where the phone would add a Bluetooth headset.
2. Select an option that looks something like find new devices or add new devices. (You are not making the phone discoverable. You just put the car in discoverable mode above, so the phone must find the car.)
3. The phone will probably show some type of searching screen, then it will display a list of available BT devices that it found.
4. Select the "BMW ULF" option.
5. Your phone will probably then ask for a confirmation and then prompt you for the BT passcode.
6. Enter the passcode printed on the car's Bluetooth module.
7. The phone may then ask you for a confirmation to accept a BT connect to the car, after you enter the passcode. If so, try to select a "YES" or "NEVER ASK AGAIN" option on the phone.
7. The car will beep once to indicate that it has paired with your phone. And, the car will remain in pairing mode so that you can pair other phones, if you wish.
8. After you have paired the phone, turn off the ignition.
9. The ignition back on, and within about 30 seconds, the phone should indicate that it has connected with the car.
sorry brian it's ALL different for the z4 m coupe. we don't have to push any buttons; we dont have a cradle nor a pairing button. and we are NOT supposed to use the so called streering wheel pairnig button as u saaid it above also...our model is supposed to enter pairing mode automatically as sooon as u turn to position 2 on the ignition. and i have seen this method pair other phones.

the key in position 2 autostarts the BT discovery mode....a bit weird i know. i haven't been able to find any official documentation on our system (e86M nav/premium). even the docs that came with the car are not for our specific model, bur rather for the regular z4 and roadster. it sucks. on top of that i'm using an unapproved phone, but the same phone is paring for some people, just not most of us with the nokia e61.
other than that this is what i do...

turn key to position 2, put navigation system on phone section, the nav screen indicates "Phone Searching" or something like that, but NEVER the word 'pairing' appears at anytime, and i've heard it's not supposed to on our model....then i put my nokia to search for bluetooth. the nokia finds the bmw BT, i tell the phone to pair. it pairs and and asks (and this is on the phone) for the Passkey. i enter the PK in the phone. it accepts it and asks for auto authorization, i say yes. in the meantime the car's nav screen still states "Phone searching..." then i go into the phone's BT options and ask it to connect (ie establish data transfer), then it fails to connect. in the meantime couple of minutes have passed by and the car's nav screen message has changed to "Activate Phone" which i assume means the car has stopped looking for any BT devices because for a couple of minutes it couldnot find any.

I've tried pairing the nokia e61 with the older firmware as well as the recent update to version 2 of the firmware.
and for the record here are my phone settings:
Bluetooth: ON
Visibility: Shown to all
phone name: name
Remote Sim Mode: Off (but i've also tried it with ON)

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