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Old 11-24-2007, 12:33 PM
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Hi Jochen I thought I would give you an update re your latest version and my Rover, last time I was getting comms errors and could not do anything with it However the latest version things look better but there are some odd side effects.

A scan of my car provides this (I have DVD nav, dual tuner BM24, 16:9 screen and TV tuner all from an E46)

Audio / Nav System scan conducted 24/11/2007 15:49:52

Following devices were found and are communicating:

BMBT On-board monitor:
Part number 6 934 409, version HW 59, SW 49, made by Alpine on 43/03 (October 2003)
Diagnostic index 51, Bus index 11, Encoding index 00

MFL Multi-function steering wheel:
No identification data available for this device


GT Graphics driver:
Part number 6 983 312, version HW 10, SW 80, made by VDO on 26/06 (June 2006)
Diagnostic index 06, Bus index 14, Encoding index 07

NAVE Navigation:
Part number 6 983 312, version HW 10, SW 80, made by VDO on 26/06 (June 2006)
Diagnostic index 06, Bus index 14, Encoding index 07

RAD Radio:
Part number 6 933 455, version HW 03, SW 29, made by Becker on 47/04 (November 2004)
Diagnostic index 16, Bus index 12, Encoding index 01

CDC CD changer:
No identification data available for this device


TV Video module:
Part number 6 923 268, version HW 06, SW 16, made by Loewe on 51/02 (December 2002)
Diagnostic index 02, Bus index 13, Encoding index 02


The following devices did not respond:
They are either not fitted, not turned on, or not communicating on the I-bus.
MID Multi-info display
FMID Rear multi-info display
IRIS Integrated radio information system
DSP Digital signal processor amplifier
TEL Telephone




Side effects are all the time I have Navcoder running the Bordmonitor screen is blank and can not be used, to correct this requires disconnecting the laptop and cycling the ignition and sometimes a battery off reset

Trying to read the nav settings sometimes causes a comms error

The shareware version obviously does not let me code the TV tuner so I have no idea if that will work

when I disconnected my laptop I noticed my TV tuner came back to life with German menus!

Now this is talking to my car I am interested in coding MG rover units with the BMW firmware did you get the Rover OS CD I sent you?
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:12 PM
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Hi Keith

>A scan of my car provides this (I have DVD nav, dual tuner BM24, 16:9

You audio scan looks good.
You do not have the latest software version loaded into your Mk4 nav unit.
You have 4-1/80 at the moment, I recommend you update to 4-1/91, which is a bug-fix release. You will find 4-1/91 on the V29 and V30 OS discs.

>Side effects are all the time I have NavCoder running the Bordmonitor
>screen is blank and can not be used, to correct this requires
>disconnecting the laptop and cycling the ignition and sometimes a
>battery off reset

The issues you are experiencing are due to data collision on the databus.

I have implemented a carrier-sense multiple-access collision-avoidance (CSMACD) algorithm that is good, but not perfect. It could be better :-)

On some cars with very busy data-busses, data collision can occur.

My car, which is my main NavCoder test bed, does not have as busy a databus as an E46 or, apparently, a Rover.

Given my limited test lab capabilities - ie: my own car - I am limited in what I can implement and test.

Also, my CSMACD is something that is working quite well now, but if I break it creates a lot of headache to get working again. It took me months to implement the current CSMACD version :-)

You issues are however temporary, and I wouldn't worry about them. I don't. If a collision occurs and things go strange, just reset (re-boot) the car (ign off, or battery off). It'll be fine afterwards. Just like Microsoft Windows, sometimes a reboot is required :-)

>The shareware version obviously does not let me code the TV tuner so
>I have no idea if that will work

It WILL work. I have never found a video module that is non-compliant. The coding works on all modules.

>when I disconnected my laptop I noticed my TV tuner came back to life
>with German menus!

It simply reset to language 00, which is German. Change the language to whatever you want.

>Now this is talking to my car I am interested in coding MG rover
>units with the BMW firmware did you get the Rover OS CD I sent you or shall
>I upload one to somewhere like MegaUpload?

Yes, I got the CD - thanks. I have used it in my testing with an original LRO nav unit. However, extensive tests reveal that the locking to LRO (land rover) OS software is buried deep in the flash EEPROM and I cannot find how to change it. I have since sold my LRO nav - the one and only LRO nav I have ever seen :-)

>It would also be nice to code Mono Rover units to colour as well if
>poss

Yes, this should be possible. I have never seen a mono LRO nav. Can you tell me what output mode it uses?
Use NavCoder, and read the output mode. This is important for me to understand the difference between LRO colour and LRO mono boot loader.
Colour = LROC01O, but what boot loader is the mono LRO nav?

>I would like to see if unlocking TV in motion works in the Rover
>eventually

Yep, works fine.

Regards, Jochen
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:56 PM
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As Rolf's interface unit hasn't arrived yet I elected to go with upgrading the software, firstly rolling back to v21.1 and then upgrading to v30. After doing so I went into the Telematics Settings screen and noted that the Vehicle Type had changed from from X3 (from where my MKIV unit originated) to 7er, and the VIN number had disappeared. However, the end result is that the Distance and Arrival Time functions are working once again, I'll simply code the above boxes when I get the interface unit, so all is good.

Jochen - whilst doing the above software changes I had a quick look at one of the unused 3-pin plugs and noted the wires were red, brown, and red/yellow, so I guess it's not an i-Bus plug, however, now I know the correct colours I can check out some of the other unused 3-pin plugs when I delve deeper.

On the NavTweak front, whenever I try to open navtweak.exe I get an error message similar to another member - This application has failed to start because libgdk-win32-2.0-0.dll was not found.

I'll Google that to try and see where the problem is.
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:55 PM
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Whenever I try to open navtweak.exe I get an error message similar to another member - This application has failed to start because libgdk-win32-2.0-0.dll was not found.
I bet you get the 'not found' message because the gdk library was not found :-)

If you read the NavTweak instructions, you will note that it states you have to install the GDK library

Can you guess what you have to do now....??
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:20 PM
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Hi Jochen
I haven't upgrade to Ver whatever the latest is because it means creating a new splash screen disk and I got lazy

Have you looked into if Navcoder can alter 4:3 Tv Tuners to 16:9 is that possible or does that require a Hardware mod instead?
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:48 PM
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Have you looked into if Navcoder can alter 4:3 Tv Tuners to 16:9 is that possible or does that require a Hardware mod instead?
The change from 4:3 to 16:9 is not a coding option, so NavCoder cannot do it.

It requires new firmware to be loaded into the video module

There is a company in Germany that does this for about 100 Euros.... or you might just like to buy a replacement 16:9 video module.
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GDK library installed, Navcoder serviceable.
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