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Old 01-18-2007, 11:32 PM
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The Russians were there AFTER the US troops were in Germany on their way to Berlin. Truman wanted Stalin on the Allies side against, Japan. Stalin wouldn't commit without some perks, one being taking Berlin..the other Hiroshima.

Now you've changed your tune on Afghanistan and Iraq, nobody ever said the US was cost efficient in war time. Afghanistan was NEVER defined as lets go kill Bin Laden, that was just a portion of the effort. The goal was to remove the Taliban and instill a leadership more in line with the West. Goal achieved.

BTW, I'm not concerned with whether you like the US or not, just keep the facts straight.
Bulls..t... The Russians beat you to Berlin and after that the race was for control of northern Germany. I've changed no tune...the only time you can call the war in Afghanistan a success is when the government you put into power successfully controls the country without your help and get Osama. The same for Iraq. Until then you have done nothing.
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Bulls..t... The Russians beat you to Berlin and after that the race was for control of northern Germany. I've changed no tune...the only time you can call the war in Afghanistan a success is when the government you put into power successfully controls the country without your help and get Osama. The same for Iraq. Until then you have done nothing.

You've officially reached status. Have fun there. And once again....Afghanistan was not to get Osama......
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You've officially reached status. Have fun there. And once again....Afghanistan was not to get Osama......
I guess you have it all figured out.....It seems you and Bush have allot in common, Ill be sure to bring this up again in 6 months to a year. Enjoy winning in Iraq.
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I think it is easy to criticize the current or past Bush plans, that's easy.

The question what plan to you have?
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The question what plan to you have?
Bring the troops home immediately. This will cause a decrease in violence as much of the fighting going on is against our troops and we are having no effect at curbing the other infighting.
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So we cut and run then what happens when civil war breaks out and the neighboring countries take over sections of the country?
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So we cut and run then what happens when civil war breaks out and the neighboring countries take over sections of the country?
Breaks out? (future tense?)

Ummm...apparently you have not been watching the news, but I'll let you in on a little secret. Civil war has already broken out bigtime. Over 34,000 civilians were killed in 2006 alone due to this civil war.

As for neighboring countries taking over sections of Iraq, that is very doubtful. Most of them just want some stability. Having a neighboring country in the midst of civil war is not good for the stability of your own country.

And as far as I know, none of Iraq's neighboring countries have shown any tendencies to being agressive. In fact, I don't think a single one of Iraq's neighbors has ever started a war with anyone except for Syria which did start the 1973 war with Israel (33 years ago). All of their other neighbors are very peaceful countries who have never started a war with anyone.

Stop believing the propoganda that the American media shoves at you, and think logically about this all.
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Old 01-21-2007, 10:44 AM
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I guess you have it all figured out.....It seems you and Bush have allot in common, Ill be sure to bring this up again in 6 months to a year. Enjoy winning in Iraq.

All figured out, you continue to not contribute. Just simply contribute to the conversation like Eric and everyone else has. Bush and I allot in common, that is hilarious considering I never voted for him and if you spent any time on the board would realize I disagree with his decisions 9 out of 10 times.
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All figured out, you continue to not contribute. Just simply contribute to the conversation like Eric and everyone else has. Bush and I allot in common, that is hilarious considering I never voted for him and if you spent any time on the board would realize I disagree with his decisions 9 out of 10 times.
In that case how do you not condemn his actions in Iraq? How much time do you need to realize that retreat is inevitable. Do you not realize that however terrible Saddam was he has less blood on his hands then Bush not to mention he was doing a better job with Iraq.

If Saddam was the target then its over, get out and let the Arabs solve their own problem.
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