The War - Page 18

ylwjacket · #**171** 01-25-2007, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crosvs

I don't understand why there's such an infatuation with presuming that our country -- MERELY because it is OUR country -- is doing the right things for the right reasons??

Similarly, I don't understand why there is an infatuation with thinking that everything the government does is crooked.

Crosvs - I am guessing you are not around our gov't very much. There are lots of good people working there, doing their best. My Dad, unlike your PhD father, has worked for the government for 30 years, and is as honest of a man as they come.

Your blanket character assassinations get old, and your condescending attitude is offensive.

That's why everyone dropped out of this thread. You and Eric can intellectually circle jerk each other, you can bounce this crap off your PhD dad (who tells you how to read the newspaper, no less), and the rest of us will move on with our lives. And, some of us will go on appreciating the work that some good, honest, hard-working middle class people do on our behalf.

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Wagner · #**172** 01-25-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ylwjacket

You and Eric can intellectually circle jerk each other, you can bounce this crap off your PhD dad (who tells you how to read the newspaper, no less), and the rest of us will move on with our lives. And, some of us will go on appreciating the work that some good, honest, hard-working middle class people do on our behalf.

I dropped out since the tread left "what do you think of the war" and became "America sucks, here is why..."

SSG.Santiago · #**173** 01-25-2007, 09:24 PM

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Deuce · #**174** 01-25-2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ylwjacket

Similarly, I don't understand why there is an infatuation with thinking that everything the government does is crooked.

Crosvs - I am guessing you are not around our gov't very much. There are lots of good people working there, doing their best. My Dad, unlike your PhD father, has worked for the government for 30 years, and is as honest of a man as they come.

Your blanket character assassinations get old, and your condescending attitude is offensive.

That's why everyone dropped out of this thread. You and Eric can intellectually circle jerk each other, you can bounce this crap off your PhD dad (who tells you how to read the newspaper, no less), and the rest of us will move on with our lives. And, some of us will go on appreciating the work that some good, honest, hard-working middle class people do on our behalf.

Well said.

inlacal · #**175** 01-25-2007, 10:05 PM

God Bless these United States of America.

The president is elected by the people.

I support the president.

We all should regardless of what our personal opinion's are. At the very least, support the war for the benefit of the troops who are there.

Our enemy enjoys our public discourse and is overjoyed when (every single day) the Clinton News Network (CNN) runs stories about the presidents (alleged) approval rating.

Then, when that doesn't work for the leftist media, they begin talking about the price of the war....Trust me, the price of the war pales in comparison to what we spend to medically, scholastically, logistically and criminally to support 30 million illegal immigrants. It makes what we are spending on the war in Iraq look like chump change. But do you hear about that? Of course not.

Reagan was abhored by the same leftist media then. History reflects that his critics didn't know what they hell they were talking about. I believe history will fare favorably for GW.

Chris

E61Silver · #**176** 01-25-2007, 10:18 PM

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Deuce · #**177** 01-25-2007, 10:20 PM

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rebound · #**178** 01-25-2007, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ylwjacket

Similarly, I don't understand why there is an infatuation with thinking that everything the government does is crooked.

Crosvs - I am guessing you are not around our gov't very much. There are lots of good people working there, doing their best. My Dad, unlike your PhD father, has worked for the government for 30 years, and is as honest of a man as they come.

Your blanket character assassinations get old, and your condescending attitude is offensive.

That's why everyone dropped out of this thread. You and Eric can intellectually circle jerk each other, you can bounce this crap off your PhD dad (who tells you how to read the newspaper, no less), and the rest of us will move on with our lives. And, some of us will go on appreciating the work that some good, honest, hard-working middle class people do on our behalf.

Thanks for the succinct answer to crosvs.

rebound · #**179** 01-25-2007, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273

Amazon.com: Confessions of an Economic Hit Man

John Perkins started and stopped writing Confessions of an Economic Hit Man four times over 20 years. He says he was threatened and bribed in an effort to kill the project, but after 9/11 he finally decided to go through with this expose of his former professional life. Perkins, a former chief economist at Boston strategic-consulting firm Chas. T. Main, says he was an "economic hit man" for 10 years, helping U.S. intelligence agencies and multinationals cajole and blackmail foreign leaders into serving U.S. foreign policy and awarding lucrative contracts to American business. "Economic hit men (EHMs) are highly paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars," Perkins writes. Confessions of an Economic Hit Man is an extraordinary and gripping tale of intrigue and dark machinations. Think John Le Carré, except it's a true story.

Perkins writes that his economic projections cooked the books Enron-style to convince foreign governments to accept billions of dollars of loans from the World Bank and other institutions to build dams, airports, electric grids, and other infrastructure he knew they couldn't afford. The loans were given on condition that construction and engineering contracts went to U.S. companies. Often, the money would simply be transferred from one bank account in Washington, D.C., to another one in New York or San Francisco. The deals were smoothed over with bribes for foreign officials, but it was the taxpayers in the foreign countries who had to pay back the loans. When their governments couldn't do so, as was often the case, the U.S. or its henchmen at the World Bank or International Monetary Fund would step in and essentially place the country in trusteeship, dictating everything from its spending budget to security agreements and even its United Nations votes. It was, Perkins writes, a clever way for the U.S. to expand its "empire" at the expense of Third World citizens.

"The story as presented is implausible to say the least, offering so few details that Perkins often seems paranoid, and the simplistic political analysis doesn’t enhance his credibility. Despite the claim that his work left him wracked with guilt, the artless prose is emotionally flat and generally comes across as a personal crisis of conscience blown up to monstrous proportions, casting Perkins as a victim not only of his own neuroses over class and money but of dark forces beyond his control. His claim to have assisted the House of Saud in strengthening its ties to American power brokers may be timely enough to attract some attention, but the yarn he spins is ultimately unconvincing, except perhaps to conspiracy buffs.
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved."

Conspiracy buffs!

No wonder you pulled it up Eric!

Deuce · #**180** 01-25-2007, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rebound

"The story as presented is implausible to say the least, offering so few details that Perkins often seems paranoid, and the simplistic political analysis doesn’t enhance his credibility. Despite the claim that his work left him wracked with guilt, the artless prose is emotionally flat and generally comes across as a personal crisis of conscience blown up to monstrous proportions, casting Perkins as a victim not only of his own neuroses over class and money but of dark forces beyond his control. His claim to have assisted the House of Saud in strengthening its ties to American power brokers may be timely enough to attract some attention, but the yarn he spins is ultimately unconvincing, except perhaps to conspiracy buffs.
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved."

Conspiracy buffs!

No wonder you pulled it up Eric!

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