What’s The Matter With Joseph Biden?

[Maruzo]

Virus doesn’t care about party affiliations.

I dont think these members have strayed away from CDC guidelines. They’ve all been fully vaccinated.

I think this article proves the importance of vaccination and it further demonstrates the usefulness of social distancing and masks even when you’ve been fully vaccinated.

[EODguy]

Originally Posted by Maruzo

Virus doesn’t care about party affiliations.



I dont think these members have strayed away from CDC guidelines. They’ve all been fully vaccinated.



I think this article proves the importance of vaccination and it further demonstrates the usefulness of social distancing and masks even when you’ve been fully vaccinated.

There is something called LIFE and FREEDOM, so if the "vaccine" is having lots of breakthroughs (official term) does anyone actually believe that we have to wear masks and stay 6' apart forever?

Tough shit if you want to visit the folks before or while they're dying, go to the movies, restaurants, parks, schools.

Besides businesses going away forever and people becoming destitute people seem to have forgotten "2 weeks to flatten the curve" so that HOSPITALS don't get overwhelmed NOT to keep everyone in perpetual lockdown.

People need to shove a SPINE up their ass and take the precautions we take for the flu...

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[crystalworks]

Originally Posted by EODguy

take the precautions we take for the flu...

I'm certainly in agreement with that. As originally, cv19 is being highly politicized and having a democratic POTUS is not going to be a cure to the virus anymore than a republican one.

The most important thing to do is get vaccinated and try not to be super out of shape so your body's defenses aren't weak. The next important thing to do is to not be an a$$hole because others choose not to get vaccinated. That's their choice, if they want to take that calculated (or uncalculated risk) so be it. If more people die... Then that's life, we can't save everyone, and frankly with the regulation that would be required to do that, I wouldn't want to try to save everyone.

^That position has changed since the release of the vaccines. Before it was more important to regulate (lockdowns, etc) as individuals didn't have a way to protect themselves. Those who lost their lives before a choice was available is, and will always be, sad.

[crystalworks]

Oh absolutely. First time things for sure, and as you pointed out, in the largest democratic stronghold in the state. Expanding voting in all areas by 1 hour is great. But more time is better. 24 hours being best obviously.

Drive through polling seems like a great idea provided it carries all the same ID verification as in building voting. And, again as you pointed out, as long as placed fairly in the districts so as to not overly favor one party or another.

I am completely against Harris County just mailing out unrequested ballots. That leaves ballots floating around in the hands of people who may have no intention of voting in the first place. Or possibly be ineligible to vote.

But at the end of the day limiting/banning all the things Harris County did is an effort to ensure those polling efforts aren't repeated in other parts of the state. For better or worse.

[EODguy]

I may be misinterpreting your post above but it seems like you're saying these 1st time things and what's being done because of Harris county is an acceptable approach. If so then how is it "voter suppression" as the specifics I asked Maruzo about?

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[crystalworks]

Originally Posted by EODguy

I may be misinterpreting your post above but it seems like you're saying these 1st time things and what's being done because of Harris county is an acceptable approach. If so then how is it "voter suppression" as the specifics I asked Maruzo about?

Yes, I do believe some of the Harris County efforts to be good steps toward allowing voters access to the polls. 24 hour voting in particular. Though it obviously drastically increases the cost of elections to add these other procedures.

That's the only "voter suppression" I would point out, limiting access to traditional methods/times (+ 1 hour) of voting. Certainly not as egregious as many on the left would want the country to believe. I am unfamiliar with other state's efforts, perhaps some of them are more flagrant.

[EODguy]

Originally Posted by crystalworks

Yes, I do believe some of the Harris County efforts to be good steps toward allowing voters access to the polls. 24 hour voting in particular. Though it obviously drastically increases the cost of elections to add these other procedures.



That's the only "voter suppression" I would point out, limiting access to traditional methods/times (+ 1 hour) of voting. Certainly not as egregious as many on the left would want the country to believe. I am unfamiliar with other state's efforts, perhaps some of them are more flagrant.

So out of all the steps listed that Harris county did or tried to do, the only one you think was good was the 24hr voting and it should be kept?

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[crystalworks]

Originally Posted by crystalworks

Yes, I do believe some of the Harris County efforts to be good steps toward allowing voters access to the polls. 24 hour voting in particular. Though it obviously drastically increases the cost of elections to add these other procedures.

Originally Posted by EODguy

So out of all the steps listed that Harris county did or tried to do, the only one you think was good was the 24hr voting and it should be kept?

No, as bolded in my post. I thought drive through voting was a good idea that could be improved upon. Generally, I'm in favor of any measure that increases access to the polls for legitimate voters. Whether that be through increased hours or different procedures giving more access to voters. So long as the same ID verification and eligibility requirements are in place as those for traditional voting I think expanding access is a good thing.

Hell, I'd be in favor of web voting through a portal if I thought there was a chance in hell it could be secure enough and verifications accurate enough to match traditional polling procedures.

I absolutely want to protect the integrity of the election process, as I'm sure you do. But some of the language in the bill(s) here in Texas is written to stop the expansion of any new procedure(s) that might make a difference in more closely contested voting districts. Republicans were always going to lose Harris County. I don't care if the expanded procedures helps Democrats or Republicans... just that more verified eligible voters are able to have choices and access when it comes to the polls. Standing in line for hours at the polls in 2020 just sounds like we're doing something wrong. Even during early voting it took me 45 minutes.

But, at the end of the day, maybe it doesn't matter. I think more and more voters from the middle are getting fed up with the back and forth bickering and animosity. I'm not sure how many more national elections I'm going to care about, nothing changes, blue or red, the status quo is maintained by all the corporate money flowing into the campaign process. I may just participate in local elections at some point once frustration levels reach peak "what the f*ck!"

[EODguy]

Originally Posted by crystalworks

No, as bolded in my post. I thought drive through voting was a good idea that could be improved upon. Generally, I'm in favor of any measure that increases access to the polls for legitimate voters. Whether that be through increased hours or different procedures giving more access to voters. So long as the same ID verification and eligibility requirements are in place as those for traditional voting I think expanding access is a good thing.



Hell, I'd be in favor of web voting through a portal if I thought there was a chance in hell it could be secure enough and verifications accurate enough to match traditional polling procedures.



I absolutely want to protect the integrity of the election process, as I'm sure you do. But some of the language in the bill(s) here in Texas is written to stop the expansion of any new procedure(s) that might make a difference in more closely contested voting districts. Republicans were always going to lose Harris County. I don't care if the expanded procedures helps Democrats or Republicans... just that more verified eligible voters are able to have choices and access when it comes to the polls. Standing in line for hours at the polls in 2020 just sounds like we're doing something wrong. Even during early voting it took me 45 minutes.



But, at the end of the day, maybe it doesn't matter. I think more and more voters from the middle are getting fed up with the back and forth bickering and animosity. I'm not sure how many more national elections I'm going to care about, nothing changes, blue or red, the status quo is maintained by all the corporate money flowing into the campaign process. I may just participate in local elections at some point once frustration levels reach peak "what the f*ck!"

I don't have a problem with that either, but I do have a problem with it being labeled as "voter suppression" since each of these were implemented for an emergency (AKA one time) or had never been implemented. You can't miss what you never had or expect to get a repeat after the emergency.

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[EODguy]

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