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Old 07-27-2021, 09:18 AM
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Old 07-27-2021, 10:27 AM
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That's not how life works mister case maker....

You started this off saying Republican voter suppression and I asked you specifically what they were doing that is voter suppression for YOU to make the claim. You can see that CW posted a list to make a case even though it was asked of you.

My reading of the bills in Texas shows that the changes the laws there would make would effect only things that were tried for the first time under emergency circumstances or were never implemented and therefore no one would expect an Emergency use order to be permanent anyway and it's kind of dumb to think that something the voters never had before can be suppressed or taken away. The fact remains that voting hours in Texas will be increased and ONLY by comparing the proposed laws with the ONE TIME covid19 change can the law be considered as more restrictive.

Now for a real lesson about claims...

If I were to say that the sky is purple not blue it is up to me to provide proof or else it is nothing more than a BS statement.

Example: Maruzo is a wife beater and a drug dealer for the Sinaloa cartel in California.

Now if I provide proof of these statements everyone would have an easy time believing it.

If I don't provide proof and people think it's at least plausible it is up to you to prove to them that you're not a drug dealer and that you don't beat your wife anymore.

See how this works?

You made the claim and you don't seem to have the spine to say what the law does specifically that suppresses the vote.
This means either you're parroting what the democrats are saying because you are ignorant and can't think for yourself or that you are saying it because you believe in a party (dems) more than a nation (which are you?)

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I disagree with your assessment. You ask for explanation of the term "Republican voter suppression". I said you can google it. It's been mentioned frequently on multiple news channels and it's more than just a talking point by democrat leaning news outlets.

My view on it is pretty simple. And I've laid out my explaination of what I believe. You have failed to address them.

So here they are again:

Google them yourself. I'm not making their case for you. Do your own due diligence.

The trend of increasing voter suppression laws that are popping up all over the country is a sign of GOP trying their hardest to swing the voting process in their favor. They've been doing that for decades. This is simply another push to tip the scale to their favor.

Why? It's not hard to figure out. Democrats have consistently out voted Republicans for the last few presidential elections. Each time the gap increases. Al Gore won popular vote by 500,000 votes. Hillary won PV by 2.9 million. And Biden won by a whopping 7 million votes, and his victory is being tauted by Trump as a lie.

Laughable, really. What's the point of casting votes if the losing side could just raise insurrection and try to take over the government because he's not happy with the result?

Anyway, the strategy is for the Republicans to make it easier for their constituents to vote, while making it harder for the democrats to cast their ballots.

No conspiracy here. It's just political strategy to gain competitive advantage.

It's old news. You either believe it or dont. I'm not here to do the work for you.

That been said, I'm not saying the democrats won't mess with the voting process just to make it easier for their constituents to cast their ballots.

At the end of day it's power grab between 2 of the major political parties in this country. Each trying to maintain a competitive edge in order to win the next election.

I remain suspicious of any and all new efforts to try and make the voting process more safe, more accessable, or more fair. Regardless of which party brings up the new laws.

This country has been a democratic country for more than 200 years. It boggles the mind that to this day we're still actively trying to "improve" the balloting process.


You are nitpicking when all you're pointing out is the Harris County voting law changes.

Afterall, while every county has their specific needs and requires voting laws unique to it's own sets of geographic and demographic chanlleges, using just the example on one Texas county is not going to give you the overall picture of the voting landscape across the entire country.

The larger meaning behind all these voting law changes across this country is the GOP's response to counter their massive loss in the 2020 presidential election.

Why voter suppression? Easy, these laws are designed to make it easier for the Republican voters to vote, while discouraging the democrats voting abilities.

Next thing you're gonna tell me is ask me to show proof.

Nope. History has already done that.

Again, do your own diligence.

And feel free to call me what ever names you like.

That seems to be a favorite past time of yours anyway.
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Old 07-29-2021, 11:09 AM
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"Google them yourself. I'm not making their case for you. Do your own due diligence."

The point that you can't seem to grasp is that you made the "case" that it was Republican voter suppression.

So to reply to you with specifics....

You have to say what SPECIFICALLY you're talking about. So far you've made a general statement but who the fuck knows what State or States you are referring to....

Where you are or someplace you pulled out of thin air to try and make points against Republicans?

In forums and conversations it is up to the person making the statement to provide proof or at a minimum say what they are basing their statement on.

Grade school English usage.

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If you are not willing to address my points, guess what I’m going to do?
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Not answer the question seems like what you're willing to do.....

As for Harris county, TX... That county (super heavy democrat area) was the one who made EMERGENCY changes to the voting system and the State rightfully is addressing that since only the STATE legislature gets to make the rules (States Rights) not county. But so many people just parrot what they hear from the MSM and somehow believe that going back to 2019 laws and NOT making the emergency rules permanent is either "Jim Crow" or voter suppression...

I was also when referencing Harris county replying to CW who actually answered the question asked of you.


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Instead of bickering like a couple of old geezers, eod, let me know your thoughts on the delta variant.

I think Short of mandating nation wide vaccination I’m not sure there’s anything effective we can do to curb the spread of the delta variant.

Please share if you believe there’s a better solution out there the government hasn’t thought of.
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Delta variant...

As many people remember a virus mutates and becomes more transmissible but less deadly/virulent, so the answer in my opinion is to protect the elderly and those who are immunocompromised and treat it like the flu.

Remember that the average death rate is 0.7% worldwide from the original and subsequent variations.
To use an analogy... 211 per 100k women died while giving birth worldwide average, but only 18 per 100k in the USA.

Should then a "mandate" be put in place for the rest of the world, that any woman who is pregnant that has ANY risk whatsoever be forced to have an abortion?

I notice that people forget to add the people who've recovered from Covid19 to the totals of immunized as though it is only the shot which gives protection. If those numbers are added to people who've been vaccinated we are then well above herd immunity (even the inflated % they now want)

Let people live in freedom is the only answer....

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I don't know how "nerdy" you guys are but there is a guy who has been championing the right to repair movement for years and doing electronics board repair videos on YouTube. Well, his shop is in NY and his business has been adversely affected by the mandates, lockdowns, etc. And now even more mandates are proposed. Deblasio and Cuomo have lost their minds. Cuomo might be lucky if he doesn't find himself washed out of politics a la Anthony Weiner.

Anyway, if you don't mind dry boring pod-cast style content, check out Louis Rossmann. Lately he's dropped the board repair stuff and focusing more on 10-20 minute videos on the state of politics, the pandemic, etc. Usually NY-centric, but he is very center-minded and matter of fact with his positions. I wish more people were like him.

TLDR from one of his last videos: he won't be requiring employees or customers to prove vaccination as Deblasio wants to mandate. Gives plenty of reasons why not. He's vaccinated and in no way anti-vax but does not want to live in an authoritarian society. Much as I don't.
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