What’s The Matter With Joseph Biden?

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[bcredliner]

Yes, you can get COVID if you have been vaccinated, however, that has rarely happened and is statistically insignificant. It is clearly not a valid reason to refuse vaccination. COVID vaccination options are all over 85% effective in preventing Covid infection. COVID vaccines obviously prevent COVID infection in all but a very very very few cases.

Yes, a vaccinated individual can carry the virus and infect others. That is the reason that even those vaccinated should be wearing masks in select circumstances.

The position of the current or the past administration has nothing to do with what we should do to get the virus under control. It is the position of medical experts around the world that is important. That research is crystal clear. Masks and vaccinations are vital to fight Covid 19, including the Delta variant. Political websites are not the way to learn about how we do our part to fight COVID. This should not be viewed as a political issue. It is a health crisis.

Those following the guidelines are not sheep. They are fact based informed individuals protecting their health, that of their loved ones and you. We should not blindly follow the soothsayers but look at both sides and make an informed decision. It is so easy and painless to be vaccinated and wear a mask. I don't see the downside.

I see you are in Canada. Canada has been more successful curbing the virus. Canada acknowledged the Covid threat very early on and implemented testing, the use of masks, appropriate mandates and vaccinations, as knowledge from research developed, as experts found the way out of the woods.

[EODguy]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

Yes, you can get COVID if you have been vaccinated, however, that has rarely happened and is statistically insignificant. It is clearly not a valid reason to refuse vaccination. COVID vaccination options are all over 85% effective in preventing Covid infection. COVID vaccines obviously prevent COVID infection in all but a very very very few cases.

Yes, a vaccinated individual can carry the virus and infect others. That is the reason that even those vaccinated should be wearing masks in select circumstances.

The position of the current or the past administration has nothing to do with what we should do to get the virus under control. It is the position of medical experts around the world that is important. That research is crystal clear. Masks and vaccinations are vital to fight Covid 19, including the Delta variant. Political websites are not the way to learn about how we do our part to fight COVID. This should not be viewed as a political issue. It is a health crisis.

Those following the guidelines are not sheep. They are fact based informed individuals protecting their health, that of their loved ones and you. We should not blindly follow the soothsayers but look at both sides and make an informed decision. It is so easy and painless to be vaccinated and wear a mask. I don't see the downside.

I see you are in Canada. Canada has been more successful curbing the virus. Canada acknowledged the Covid threat very early on and implemented testing, the use of masks, appropriate mandates and vaccinations, as knowledge from research developed, as experts found the way out of the woods.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm

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[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by EODguy

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm

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The CDC is a great source for expert and scientific facts about COVID 19 and variants. My go-to organizations for the facts are primarily the CDC and WHO.

Having read the entire article it clearly supports what I have been posting.

[EODguy]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

The CDC is a great source for expert and scientific facts about COVID 19 and variants. My go-to organizations for the facts are primarily the CDC and WHO.



Having read the entire article it clearly supports what I have been posting.

Except for the fact that 74% of those total cases were breakthrough infections of non-familial FULLY vaccinated people. Something unheard of with other approved vaccines.

If they were family members then maybe you could say it was a genetic predisposition. These vaccines are no-where near ready.
When was the last breakthrough case of smallpox, measles, mumps in the United States?

You'll notice that I included diseases that have animal reservoirs and/or are still common in many parts of the world.

As for longterm effects... Who knows?
When the manufacturer says (a few months ago) NOT recommended for under 12 years of age, but says it's "fine" for pregnant women.... Well anyone that's not a complete moron should be asking WTAF?

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Originally Posted by EODguy

Something unheard of with other approved vaccines.

Name one other vaccine that is being deployed into a world wide pandemic.


I’m not sure there is data around the initial deployment of the polio vaccine, but that might be the closest example.

I guess this is one of the latest ‘government is lying, I’m not an anti Vaxer- just doing research” crowds talking points: real vaccines are perfect, therefore this cannot be a real vaccine. I mean moronic, right?

The vaccines are (roughly) 95% against the original COVID. Much less against Delta. But it still prevents death and hospitalization TO A GREAT DEGREE.

Why is this so hard for stupid people? The anti-vax, right wing, anti government/patriot/personal freedom core of the resistance is being driven to violence. Add in dumb and we are in for some ugly times.

[Maruzo]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

Yes, you can get COVID if you have been vaccinated, however, that has rarely happened and is statistically insignificant. It is clearly not a valid reason to refuse vaccination. COVID vaccination options are all over 85% effective in preventing Covid infection. COVID vaccines obviously prevent COVID infection in all but a very very very few cases.

Yes, a vaccinated individual can carry the virus and infect others. That is the reason that even those vaccinated should be wearing masks in select circumstances.

The position of the current or the past administration has nothing to do with what we should do to get the virus under control. It is the position of medical experts around the world that is important. That research is crystal clear. Masks and vaccinations are vital to fight Covid 19, including the Delta variant. Political websites are not the way to learn about how we do our part to fight COVID. This should not be viewed as a political issue. It is a health crisis.

Those following the guidelines are not sheep. They are fact based informed individuals protecting their health, that of their loved ones and you. We should not blindly follow the soothsayers but look at both sides and make an informed decision. It is so easy and painless to be vaccinated and wear a mask. I don't see the downside.

I see you are in Canada. Canada has been more successful curbing the virus. Canada acknowledged the Covid threat very early on and implemented testing, the use of masks, appropriate mandates and vaccinations, as knowledge from research developed, as experts found the way out of the woods.

This post should be placed on sticky under How to Properly Protect Yourself During a World-wide Pandemic