Quick Question

[JCL]

Originally Posted by Wagner

OK maybe you missed the idea here. Obama wants to selectively increase taxes and then spend those funds on charity efforts. Hence the government FORCING you (as you'd go to jail if you don't pay).

I didn't miss the idea. You didn't ask if I thought charity should be forced. You asked if wealth redistribution was a good idea.

When did Obama enter this discussion, apart from FSeth's reference to Joe the Plumber? What about the current financial bailout?

If you are going to redistribute wealth, at least give it to those who need it and not those who have proven they don't deserve it, ie the robber barons.

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by JCL

I disagree that I am measuring it by the dollar. You keep bringing it back to money. "Just" doesn't mean the same price.

In an early post in this thread, you defined wealth as "your money". I thought wealth meant assets, not cash.

Oh Lord. We're talking about WEALTH redistribution...what are you classifying as wealth? How someone feels?

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by JCL

I didn't miss the idea. You didn't ask if I thought charity should be forced. You asked if wealth redistribution was a good idea.

When did Obama enter this discussion, apart from FSeth's reference to Joe the Plumber? What about the current financial bailout?

If you are going to redistribute wealth, at least give it to those who need it and not those who have proven they don't deserve it, ie the robber barons.

Quick question, how may tangents do you want to go on?

[Krimson X]

Originally Posted by Wagner

Try to keep your eye on the ball. We're talking dollars here, so less value would equal less dollars.

So, how do you measure hard workers by the dollar. I am an attorney, making a very good living. But I look out of my window everyday at the construction workers bending steel and performing backbreaking work. Are they less hard working than me because they earn less than 1/3 my income? You couldn't pay me enough to do what they do.

[Wagner]

DOLLAR VALUE...again.

I am curious that you can be such an Obama fan and not want wealth distro since that is the crux of his platform.

[Quicksilver]

A lesser valued worker???
Who might that be??

You honestly believe that someone who bust his butt for $9.00
An hour is some how of lesser value than someone making $250.000 a year.

Originally Posted by Wagner

Quick, it does to have to deal with money when you are discussing taxing harder worker more to benefit lesser valued workers. If you wanted to be just, the only federal tax would be a federal sales tax.

[JCL]

Originally Posted by MrLabGuy

Under Obama and the Democrats that would be true. However, taxes are designed to pave roads, pay for schools and federal and local government infrastructure. Taxes are not meant for Charity and Charity should be up to individuals and the many non-profit organizations in business to distribute and spend the charitable dollars.

You've hit on the fundamental difference between Liberals and Conservatives.

Taxation is wealth distribution under your current government, it has nothing to do with Democratics and Republicans as they are currently campaigning. I think you may be getting more into a Libertarian definition here.

Since you bring up fundamental differences, it seems to me that the difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals want charity for the poor, and conservatives want charity for the rich. Old joke.

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

A lesser valued worker???
Who might that be??

See the other response.

Less value = Less Dollars when you are talking about forced wealth distribution.

[Quicksilver]

For the record I voted “YES”

#1 I believe in helping the poor

#2 I believe in financially helping the family

#3 I believe in sharing knowledge that leads to independent wealth

#4 I believe in taxes that are needed to fund public services

#5 I believe in philanthropy

#6 I believe in acquiring spiritual wealth and passing it along free.

#7 I don’t believe in being selfish

If any of these things I’ve listed fall within the confines of wealth redistribution Than it’s a good thing.

If It ever gets to the point that I would have more money that I could ever spend, I doubt seriously I would be the least bit concerned about weather wealth redistribution was an issue.

[Krimson X]

Originally Posted by Wagner

DOLLAR VALUE...again.

I am curious that you can be such an Obama fan and not want wealth distro since that is the crux of his platform.

I am because I believe that prosperity starts from the bottom up. Furthermore, I do not share in the "Me First" mentality.