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Old 10-25-2012, 04:17 PM
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Have not heard of such a statement before. Am i missing something? Hope you have evidence to back up your claim. Why should'n he? No law has been broken as far as we know.
You hope I have evidence to back up my claim? Are you missing something?

Yes on both counts Mr. Prosecutor. Why don't you do a little seach for "Mitt Romney Fraudulent Tax Returns" and see what pops up.

Here, I will start you off with one... But the next one will cost a bit.

The Bane of Romney's Investments: Whistleblowers - Forbes
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Old 10-25-2012, 04:52 PM
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Because the accusation is (in part) that he used unlawful methods to achieve his low rate.

If he did do it lawfully, I would not oppose him doing whatever he wants... However, I do think that he should not be entitled to pay such a low rate on such large amounts.
That may be the accusation from some, but I am pretty sure he is on record saying he had (closed in 2010) a Swiss bank account and also had some money invested in the Cayman Islands. However, he states all accounts were disclosed to the IRS and so far the Gov't/IRS hasn't accused him of doing anything illegal, so I don't see what the big deal is?

Also, I think I read that he it taxed at a higher rate than 97% of Americans, that he made a 14% contribution to charity and so on. I also think most of his income was actually on investments, which is taxed at a different rate.
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Old 10-25-2012, 04:56 PM
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That may be the accusation from some, but I am pretty sure he is on record saying he had (closed in 2010) a Swiss bank account and also had some money invested in the Cayman Islands. However, he states all accounts were disclosed to the IRS and so far the Gov't/IRS hasn't accused him of doing anything illegal, so I don't see what the big deal is?
The big deal is that some think his taxes are fishy ans want to take a look.
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Old 10-26-2012, 10:07 AM
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The big deal is that some think his taxes are fishy ans want to take a look.
I guess Trump feels the same way about Obama's college transcripts, so what is the difference?

I just don't understand why the taxes are such a big deal. Romney has filed his taxes with the IRS and they haven't accused him of doing anything wrong, so what would you do with them? Is it a lack of trust in the Gov't? If that is the case maybe we all really do need to personally see original copies of Obama's birth certificate and college transcripts.
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If he is going to show all his tax records, will it changes people mind one way or the other?Nope, IMO.The most important issue here is not rich or poor, nor more or less taxes paid. It is more of who can handles on the economy better.
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you are right, we saw the birth certificate already...

even though i find it interesting, a person has no say in his time, date or place of birth, and also in his age but those two items are requirements in the presidential system (US born, 35 y.o), even though McCain was born in Panama and had no ability at the time to force his parents to fly to the US for his birth... He is still eligible, it was US military base where was born...

while birth certificate says nothing about the person, his tax records are a different story - a person is personally (person.. personally... i spend too much personal time online!!!) responsible for his records...

just make it public, feed the dogs the bone, and move on... otherwise, it will keep coming back...
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In the end, it is about the economy and current administration cannot run on their record. Blaming Bush doesn't work anymore. Libya ambassador was killed by Al-Queda, not by You Tube.

In the end, who ever wins, someone else is going to be upset. The U.S. economy is on the tank and the rest of the world feels it.
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I work for the DSS, the bureau that provides security to all US diplomatic missions worldwide and more...
Ambassador Stevens was killed because his security detail was overpowered by the attackers, who had chosen a soft target of our temporary consulate in Benghazi. Ambassadors do not travel with heavy security details, and it has been like that for several decades. That fight was lost on the intelligence level - I am not part of the investigation but I bet you, that some local hire at the Embassy "ratted" out the fact that the Ambassador was traveling to the consulate and that was it - the attackers gathered together and struck... 2 former Seals can't resist 40 attackers for too long... God rest their souls in peace...

Youtube or not, that war is neverending, and you can't deny that the youtube movie provided a smokescreen for the attack - once the smoke was cleared, more and more details emerged... blind speculations by people who have no idea what they are talking about should not have any bearings on the truth, even if their specualtion hit the spot - most of the investigative information is classified, and is not available for the public for the very reason to protect lives...

and the economy? Mitt is a very shrewd businessman, who I would love to run a company that I have shares of - but he is for the profit, not for the public service... two different things...

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Pretty cogent commentary, Terminator...

I used to 'like' Trump, back when I was in Gotham, '74-2000. But, he has become a self-parody, and I have to wonder what his advisors/entourage were thinking in saying, "Sure Boss, that is great idea. Let's pump it up with press PR and then make that 'announcement'. " WTF?!

Obama may have some shrouded past in terms of CV and transparency, and he may have gone about 2 for 32 at bat in his term, but I highly doubt he is some mole or boogie man.

I may toss a freakin coin when I walk in to early voting next week...
The Prez, whomever he is, is not the problem(s) this country faces, imo.
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