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TriX5 06-09-2011 09:19 AM

Well, I don't know about the oil really, does it say what specs that meets? BMW make it sound as tho only their variety of snake oil will do...

I got the bearing from Eriksson. (www.erikssonindustries.com)

RRPhil 06-09-2011 09:24 AM

Yep, ZF Lifeguardfluid5 is re-badged Mobil ATF LT71141 so it's the correct fluid for a 5HP24.

So are all of these :

Audi / VW - Part No. G 052162 A1 / A2 / A6
BMW - Part No. 8322 9407807
Citroen - Part No. Z 000169756
Jaguar - Part No. JLM 20238
Land Rover - Part No. STC4863
Mercedes Benz - Part No. A 0019892203
Peugeot - Part No. Z 000169756
Porsche - Part No. 999.917.547.00

Phil

TriX5 06-09-2011 10:21 AM

Phil - sounds good, I might order some myself.

Where is Transtar based? EDIT: Found one 10 miles away, they were not too helpful but at least they have the same ZF bottles.

RDM08 06-09-2011 11:58 AM

thanks guys!!!

RDM08 06-10-2011 12:11 AM

striped torx anyone?
 
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TravsX5 06-10-2011 09:50 AM

i'm going to chime in on the topic of fluids and share my recent experience.

my 4.6 has been in the dealership multiple times for transmission problems. The last time it was squalling, making sounds like grinding metal and would barely inch around. They said it had grenaded and was completely gone. I didn't have, nor would i pay the $10k they wanted for the fix. In a hope of desperation I did a fluid change on it using the OEM fluids. It made it the 300ft down my driveway before trans safe kicked in.

Fast forward to 2 weeks ago, I had gotten my salvage transmission in as well as more OMG OEM expensive fluids and filter for this swap. Reset the transmission to get rid of the failsafe, praying i could get a couple feet out of it to make loading it on the trailer for transport to the repair shop easier and it drove right up on the trailer.. a little noisy but drove right up. I unloaded it and drove it down the street.. no failsafe.. still noisy.. drove it to the corner gas station and back (8 miles round trip).. no failsafe.. still noisy. Got online and found the cheapest compatible fluid i could find. Castrol makes a import ATF fluid you can get at walmart for $4.90/qt. that says it meets the OEM standards. So i dropped the pan, swapped the filter, refilled it AGAIN. I figured if the transmission was really dead, what would it matter to swap in this cheap alternative ATF fluid as a test.

Poof, no noise, no grinding, no squalling, no slipping on shifts. I've got about 600 miles on it since i swapped out that fluid and filter. I've already got 2 more filter kits ($15/each for pan gasket and filter as a kit) from RockAuto Auto Parts And i'm doing second fluid swap this weekend (3rd if you count the OEM fluid one) and when i get another 500 miles or so i'm going to do another one so that i have as much of that old fluid out as possible. So i'm just saying, to each their own, but i'm not buying into the "only use this fluid in this transmission" because the OEM fluid swap didn't help at all and even if it did its far to expensive to justify it when i can get a perfectly good alternative fluid for less than $5/quart.

$50 for fluids and filter, no matter how many miles i get out of it, its better than doing a transmission swap or listening to the dealerships dumb asses.

And yes, i am keeping my salvage tranny so that if it does grenade for real before I decide to get rid of it i'm covered. :rofl:

TriX5 06-10-2011 11:57 AM

Travs - when you drop the pan, how much metal is on the magnets?

I think the fluid spec is not an issue in the short run but I would eventually go back to a type that meets the spec. Transtar sells singles for much less than the dealer.

Also, you may find your problem comes back in time. So, don't sell that salvage box. But, if you ever need that replacement, it would be wise to have that refurbed before putting it in.

Good luck.

TriX5 06-10-2011 12:00 PM

BTW, for anyone trying this, the recessed torx tend to be very tight. I could not get them to budge and started to worry about stripping them. The way to go is, hit them twice with a 10 or 12mm drift and a small hammer and they'll zoom out no problem.

TravsX5 06-10-2011 02:53 PM

I had ALOT more metal shavings on the magnets than the OP, but i didn't have all the chunks he had. I was NOT optimistic at all once i got that pan down, but someone up there was looking down on me and I feel very blessed that I've dodged this bullet, and its running properly, if even for a short time.

So in dodging this transmission bullet, it gave me enough push to go order her replacement. All i need is for this transmission to hold together till aug when she's getting traded off when my new car comes in. THEN i'll sell the salvage transmission.. haha. I want it gone before i do though.

RDM08 06-11-2011 01:32 AM

getting there...
 
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