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Old 07-18-2009, 01:02 PM
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With M, we don't have buyers; we have performance maniacs that need to be treated as special people.
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Old 07-19-2009, 02:47 AM
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"Word has to get out in the market. We won't do big marketing campaigns for these cars. " - i dont get that

"the m3 has peaked " ? it doesnt seem that old...
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Looking at the options sheet, looks like 3rd row seats won't be available for the M version. Is this right?
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Looking at the options sheet, looks like 3rd row seats won't be available for the M version. Is this right?
First time I am reading "3rd row seats" and "M verson" in one sentence. Good luck.
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Old 07-19-2009, 10:18 AM
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Cutting under a 5sec 0-60 is cake for the Jeep. In fact most auto reviews were getting results of 4.3-4.5 wet or dry. Its all about its ability to preload the torque convertor when launching it.
When i was in the market, the best numbers i read in a review was by motor trend (i believe)...their 0-60 was 4.6. You have track experience so i assume it's possible for you to reach such results. I've witnessed track trained divers with modded SRT8's pull similar or better numbers. I guess it comes down to the driver, their skill-set, and conditions.
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First time I am reading "3rd row seats" and "M verson" in one sentence. Good luck.
First time I'm reading X and M Version too!!

Not interested in one personally, as I prefer my E53.
Just think it's a bit hypocritical to M power an SUV/SAV, yet remove a feature that many people may choose to buy that type of car for.

Can't see how a third row would make the car car seem any more compromised in a motorsports reference of view.
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"the m3 has peaked " ? it doesnt seem that old...
Its not that old, but they also flooded the market with them in 2008 expecting them to sell better than they did...

I almost picked up a left-over 2008 e90 M3 with a sticker price over $78,000 on a dirt-cheap lease for somewhere just over $900/month. It would have been quite a bit cheaper too if I wasn't going to carry nearly $6,000 in negative equity into it.

Yeah, that $6,000 negative equity plus $300 more per month for a car which would be a lease, not a purchase, plus going back to school, plus things rocky with the SO that I live with, plus having crazy milage limits, plus beater being unreliable, etc, etc, etc. The negatives, or possible negatives outweighed the positive, and so now I've dumped some cash in savings onto the current car note, and am pinching every penny to pay it off ASAP.

When I finish my 4-year degree I should have a nice down payment on something CPO'd with an M badge, x5 or e90, or if leasing new isn't much more per month, I might go that route. Some frown on leasing, but if your going to buy a used car, why not buy from yourself? Thats how I look at a lease, sure, it might take you 8 years to pay off, but whats the difference in buying a 3 year old car and financing for 5? In the end you still have an 8 year old car, and if thats the only way you can afford it, at least you enjoyed it all 8 of those years...

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Its not that old, but they also flooded the market with them in 2008 expecting them to sell better than they did...

I almost picked up a left-over 2008 e90 M3 with a sticker price over $78,000 on a dirt-cheap lease for somewhere just over $900/month. It would have been quite a bit cheaper too if I wasn't going to carry nearly $6,000 in negative equity into it.

Yeah, that $6,000 negative equity plus $300 more per month for a car which would be a lease, not a purchase, plus going back to school, plus things rocky with the SO that I live with, plus having crazy milage limits, plus beater being unreliable, etc, etc, etc. The negatives, or possible negatives outweighed the positive, and so now I've dumped some cash in savings onto the current car note, and am pinching every penny to pay it off ASAP.

When I finish my 4-year degree I should have a nice down payment on something CPO'd with an M badge, x5 or e90, or if leasing new isn't much more per month, I might go that route. Some frown on leasing, but if your going to buy a used car, why not buy from yourself? Thats how I look at a lease, sure, it might take you 8 years to pay off, but whats the difference in buying a 3 year old car and financing for 5? In the end you still have an 8 year old car, and if thats the only way you can afford it, at least you enjoyed it all 8 of those years...

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First time I am reading "3rd row seats" and "M verson" in one sentence. Good luck.
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Why would you want to have payments for 8 years ?
If thats the only way you can afford the vehicle of your dreams, why not?

Why not have a less expensive lease payment for the first 3, then a higher loan payment the last five...

I've got a friend with a 10 year loan on a boat, a boat he can only use maybe 6 months out of the year, lol.
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