My 2005 X5 Aftermarket Radio Install Thread

[Crowz]

One last thing I ran across.

7. September 2017

that's why the DSP license. Adrian has the protocols to keep the DSP alive

This clearly shows the app keeps the dsp going.

[bcredliner]

It's a new day. In a couple of hours I will try the DSP portion of the app. I seem to recall seeing something like you mention.

[Crowz]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

It's a new day. In a couple of hours I will try the DSP portion of the app. I seem to recall seeing something like you mention.

Great !

Let us know how it goes. Wow I slept late.

[bcredliner]

I have not found anything in coding for DSP nor anything that mentions polling.

I have attached some pictures:

The first shows the internal part of the blue connector. Per Seicane I am to insert the blue plug in the factory nav and run the 4 wires to the connector in the last photo. Assuming I have the 4 wires in the proper slots of the blue connector it doesn't get me sound.

The the next two show the two RCA wires that come from the amp and go to the Southgate convertor. I think that was part of the changes I made when I install the Mediabridge but can't remember. I'm wondering if the Mediabridge wiring is the problem.

The last one shows the connector from Seicane harness that the four wires from the nav unit are supposed to be connected.

At one point I was getting sound for 10-30 seconds. Per Seicane that meant the DSP signal wasn't stable the nav unit wired in is supposed to make the DSP become stable.

I found this video and am going to try it and see what happens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rgnk1vfOhM

[txyaloo]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

The wires I want to put back in the correct slots are in the blue connector that goes into the back of the original radio. Is there something that lists the wire colors and slots they should be in?

The app is unlocked with DSP. There is no coding option for DSP, just the screen that I could pull up on original unit. Sound still comes on for 10-20 seconds and then goes off.

I certainly this is a communication problem rather that the only way to get their unit to work with DSP is to wire in the old tuner. Since it will be in the back I can probably hide it somewhere but what a cobbled up mess that will be.

DSP isn't plug and play. The sound turning off has nothing to do with the ibus app or your wiring. I didn't mess with any of the board monitor wires behind the screen. I used my MediaBridge adapter already hooked up in the trunk. To get sound, you first have to "hotwire" the DSP amp which it appears you've done since you're getting sound. The ibus system pings all devices in the chain - radio, navigation, board monitor, etc. If any of those devices is missing, the amp won't stay on. You need to leave the factory radio connected in the trunk. Second, you have to code the amp using NCSExpert.

1. Read the module (could be called AMP, DSP, radio) with NCSExpert in Manipulation mode
2. Edit the module value called: BEDIENELEMENTE
3. Change the value from "bordmonitor" to "mid_basis"
4. Save the new configuration file
5. Run SG_CODIEREN in NCSExpert

Your amp should stay on as soon as the coding is done. There's no way to do the coding through the ibus app. You'll need to use NCSExpert

[Crowz]

Similar to what this guy ran into I bet.

My car is a 99 or 00 with 4:3 display, dsp and nav unit in the trunk. tHe nav unit died and all I get is a blank screen with some lines on the 4:3 display, the amp shuts off after 1-3 minutes.

I changed the dsp code with ncsexpert from "bordmonitor" to "mid_basis" and now the aamp no longer shuts off!

I never change the radio station, have a phone and never used the nav so I really dont care about it working or want to spend 150 $ to get a new useless nav unit

Since you have nav and are removing the factory nav unit your still going to run a wire to do what the guy in the video link did to turn the amp "on". The difference is after the ncs editing it will stay on after the editing.

The apps coding of things seems to be patched in memory from what I can tell. Thus if you set something in it on the coding screen and then don't run the app at crank up time the changes are not there. From what I read on the german site last night the app sends this coding at boot time. Again I am guessing as I don't have a dsp to experiment with.... yet. I am working on solving that

[bcredliner]

Thanks for your patience. Sorry but I am confused as to what to do next.

Here's where it stands:

I have made no changes to the modifications I made when I installed the Mediabridge, they are still in place. I have nothing from factory equipment connected to the Seicane harness in the photo. I do not have a blue wire connected to a white wire suggested in the video.

I have tried the blue to white wire, though I am not sure I have the right blue or white wire since that is not clear in the video. I have tried connecting the nav unit to the Seicane connector in the picture. I haven't tried both connecting the nav unit and blue to white wire at the same time.

At this point I have no sound at anytime. Same thing happened yesterday but it came back to the 20-30 second sound in the afternoon but is now gone again. I would like to get back to the 20-30 seconds of sound starting point before doing anything further. I'm going to check every wire now connected to Seicane unit and make sure a wire is not disconnected. I guess I could have changed something when I was messing with the Seicane unit trying to find the DSP coding but I have no idea what that could be.

I haven't verified the wires I put back in the blue connector are in the correct slots, I don't have the color of each wire in each of the twelve slots. so I am not sure the Seicane fix won't work.

Unless the years old Mediabridge wiring changes hot wired the amp I haven't done that.

It sounds like both of you are saying that at some point I will have to make some NCS changes. I have NCS expert but have never used it so that is going to be a bigger challenge if it is necessary to go that route. Seicane has not said anything about NCS changes. Their claim is if I wire in the "radio" to the connector I posted the picture I will have sound--that's their instructions for making their system work with DSP. Have the wiring changes made for Mediabridge eliminated that as an option if it ever was?

[Overboost]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

Thanks for your patience. Sorry but I am confused as to what to do next.

Here's where it stands:

It sounds like both of you are saying that at some point I will have to make some NCS changes. I have NCS expert but have never used it so that is going to be a bigger challenge if it is necessary to go that route.

If your NCS Expert loaded laptop has internet access, download Teamviewer and I can do it for you remotely.

[Crowz]

Letting overboost do the teamviewer would be the fastest safest bet.

Then it should be just a matter of finding out what wire does the equivalent of what that guy did in the video.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by txyaloo

DSP isn't plug and play. The sound turning off has nothing to do with the ibus app or your wiring. I didn't mess with any of the board monitor wires behind the screen. I used my MediaBridge adapter already hooked up in the trunk. To get sound, you first have to "hotwire" the DSP amp which it appears you've done since you're getting sound. The ibus system pings all devices in the chain - radio, navigation, board monitor, etc. If any of those devices is missing, the amp won't stay on. You need to leave the factory radio connected in the trunk. Second, you have to code the amp using NCSExpert.

1. Read the module (could be called AMP, DSP, radio) with NCSExpert in Manipulation mode
2. Edit the module value called: BEDIENELEMENTE
3. Change the value from "bordmonitor" to "mid_basis"
4. Save the new configuration file
5. Run SG_CODIEREN in NCSExpert

Your amp should stay on as soon as the coding is done. There's no way to do the coding through the ibus app. You'll need to use NCSExpert

Laptop does have internet access. I will see if I can get the program to open tomorrow. Seems like last time, maybe two years ago, I couldn't get it to work.

Before we can do that am I correct that I will need both the nav/radio unit wired up in the rear and the blue to white wire connected? Seicane say to connect the radio to the four wires on their harness that I sent picture.

And unless hot wiring the DSP amp was part of the Mediabridge wiring changes I will need to know how to do that.

In one of the pictures I posted it shows the Soundgate convertor connected to the red and white RCA connector wires. Those wires go to the input side of the aftermarket amp that was part of a BSW speaker, subwoofer upgrade package. Are they for the speakers?