My experience with a laptop GT1

[TwinsPoppa]

Originally Posted by koister2001

Thanks Jose,

I will definitely take some pictures of the setup for pre-facelift models. If $tealers can do, we can do!
My 330ci is 2001 (2001/05 build). I will go over the document and report the progresses. One thing that I realized is that I have to put the gear in neutral (I am 5 speed) before running DIS. Hopefully that unlocks the mystery.
Weasel, have any other suggestions for the issue with my 3?

Okay, koister2001 just confimed to me that the issue with his 330ci was the same as his X. Apparently, if you have a manual tranny just stick it in neutral!

[cjawahir]

hi, found this info how to install the software for gt1 ...

>>BMW DIS Installation

cj

[Weasel]

No, never with it running. And the "coding has not been changed" message is what it always says, don't know why. I always blamed it on poor translation from German to English. Do you have the SSS software as well with the GT1? If so, I'd swap over to that and program the DME with the newest software. (also easy, and I can give you a button by button work flow)

[TwinsPoppa]

Originally Posted by weasel56

No, never with it running. And the "coding has not been changed" message is what it always says, don't know why. I always blamed it on poor translation from German to English. Do you have the SSS software as well with the GT1? If so, I'd swap over to that and program the DME with the newest software. (also easy, and I can give you a button by button work flow)

So, you're saying that even if it DID change something it would display the "no change" message? I didn't clear the fault when I went into the Control Module Functions.

Do you think I should try to clear it and see if it might have actually encoded properly?

One of the compressed files for SSS is corrupt. I'm waiting on a replacement DVD so can't install it yet to test it out.

Since you ask about SSS then I assume I can do SOME coding/programming with SSS using the DK (yellow diagnostic head)? This was an assumption of mine previously but, of course, couldn't verify. Then that begs the question too of limitations. SSS can be used with the DK but limited by year/model of vehicle?

BTW ... I caught that stuff below ... it isn't the first time you've done that!

ZCS/FA Coding
(random images of kids on slip and slide)
Should I have continued with MOTRONIC?

I also tried this:
(random images of kids on space walk)

[Weasel]

Yeah, the head used with the SSS fully depends on the vehicle connected. And the E53 just so happens to be one of the two that use the yellow DK head.

That fault on the screen showed "currently present" which means just that, and usually clearing it won't do it any good as it will come back.

And it looks like the last date of programming was about Halloween time last year, likely it had a coding error with that programming and had the fault since going unnoticed... but the new software update should fix that when you get the disc.

[TwinsPoppa]

Originally Posted by weasel56

Yeah, the head used with the SSS fully depends on the vehicle connected. And the E53 just so happens to be one of the two that use the yellow DK head.

That fault on the screen showed "currently present" which means just that, and usually clearing it won't do it any good as it will come back.

And it looks like the last date of programming was about Halloween time last year, likely it had a coding error with that programming and had the fault since going unnoticed... but the new software update should fix that when you get the disc.

Yeah, I bought the car on Oct. 30th or 31st of last year. So, they were probably getting the X ready.

Thanks .. I'll just have to wait for SSS to be up and running then I'll update the thread with results.

BTW ... I think my stepper motor is the cause of my driver HL problem. I'm arranging a troubleshooting post for that and will post as soon as its ready.

And now that I've taken the DME fault as far as I can for now - I have another fault that returned since I cleared all faults. I'm preparing that too for your inspection. Stay tuned.

Thanks again weasel ... have a good evening.

[koister2001]

I found a power supply (PFC MagaPAC 15V/13.3A) in my garage. Would this work with the GT1 setup? Or is 15V too high We need a stable power source, 12.6V or higher but I don't know how high the voltage can go. Any idea?

[koister2001]

Found an answer.

The voltage charger spec for GT1 is 0-14 V @ a max of 100 Amps. I think it is too risky to take the chance.
I am now more concerned about connecting to a power supply after reading this.
How you can program your car (Progman) at home - The Unofficial BMW M5 Messageboard (m5board.com)

Tonight, I tried to hook up to my 330ci and the same error came up. Measure the battery voltage 12.04V. Could this be the problem?

Originally Posted by koister2001

I found a power supply (PFC MagaPAC 15V/13.3A) in my garage. Would this work with the GT1 setup? Or is 15V too high We need a stable power source, 12.6V or higher but I don't know how high the voltage can go. Any idea?

[TwinsPoppa]

I added 2 links to the Additional Resources / Downloads section.

SIB 04 11 02 regarding Deutronic Battery Charger (Thanks X5meister)

Deutronic Battery Charger Manual (Thanks Internet)

[TwinsPoppa]

Originally Posted by koister2001

I found a power supply (PFC MagaPAC 15V/13.3A) in my garage. Would this work with the GT1 setup? Or is 15V too high We need a stable power source, 12.6V or higher but I don't know how high the voltage can go. Any idea?

First, I think we need more info. on that charger. Is it for automotive application? I don't think higher voltage is necessarily bad.

Originally Posted by koister2001

Found an answer.

The voltage charger spec for GT1 is 0-14 V @ a max of 100 Amps. I think it is too risky to take the chance.
I am now more concerned about connecting to a power supply after reading this.
How you can program your car (Progman) at home - The Unofficial BMW M5 Messageboard (m5board.com)

Tonight, I tried to hook up to my 330ci and the same error came up. Measure the battery voltage 12.04V. Could this be the problem?

Interesting reading but most likely not required for most of what we're going to be doing for the X. If that changes then that means we are really harnessing the power of this "outdated/obsolete" DIS v43!

The BMW charger from Deutronic is around $1500-$2000. So, it's not a practical option (at least at that price range) for most people.

Okay, now I need you to clarify a few things for me:

1) Initially you had a problem with being unable to diagnose or code with DIS v43. That was resolved by using the BMW 20-pin connector under the hood. After that you didn't encounter any problems with low voltage, correct? So, no problems at all with using DIS v43 with the X.

2) When you indicated that you had to put the vehicle in neutral, were you speaking about the X, 330ci or both? I was under he impression it was for both.

3) Now the 330ci only. Which connector are you using, I assume the OBD. Do you have to put it in neutral? I assume you have a manual tranny. When you try to enter the Diagnosis or Coding/Programming menus, is that when you get the low voltage message? Or is Diagnosis now okay but the C/P menu is the only problem?