Home Forums Articles How To's FAQ Register
Go Back   Xoutpost.com > BMW SAV Forums > X5 (E53) Forum
Fluid Motor Union
User Name
Password
Member List Premier Membership Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Xoutpost server transfer and maintenance is occurring....
Xoutpost is currently undergoing a planned server migration.... stay tuned for new developments.... sincerely, the management


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51  
Old 11-05-2015, 06:57 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 2,216
Clockwork is on a distinguished road
gents, I'm taking your advice and will spend my money elsewhere.

BCRedliner, now you have me thinking about something else now....

I have the aftermarket tune BUT I just had to re-flash my tranny with SSS Progman to clear up the hard shift from 2-1st gear I was experiencing... this reflash I did a few nights ago would have not affected the aftermarket tune I paid for years ago would it? they are different modules of the vehicle if I'm not mistaken. And truth be told, my tranny seems snappier now after reflash.
So now I'm wondering if I did do the Dinan tranny software for a facelifted e53, maybe THAT tune would not negate the aftermarket tune I have.
Perhaps I'm wrong in my understanding though...
__________________
I swear, my cars are like a girlfriend.
Sometimes its a rough ride, sometimes its smooth motorin'.
Sometimes she doesnt like how i treat her and sometimes i dont like how she behaves.
BUT at the end of the day, she loves it when I am inside her.

_______________________
'91 850i
'05 X5 4.4i
'09 Clubman S
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links

  #52  
Old 11-05-2015, 10:33 PM
bcredliner's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Little Elm,Texas. (40 minutes North of Dallas)
Posts: 8,108
bcredliner is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clockwork View Post
gents, I'm taking your advice and will spend my money elsewhere.

BCRedliner, now you have me thinking about something else now....

I have the aftermarket tune BUT I just had to re-flash my tranny with SSS Progman to clear up the hard shift from 2-1st gear I was experiencing... this reflash I did a few nights ago would have not affected the aftermarket tune I paid for years ago would it? they are different modules of the vehicle if I'm not mistaken. And truth be told, my tranny seems snappier now after reflash.
So now I'm wondering if I did do the Dinan tranny software for a facelifted e53, maybe THAT tune would not negate the aftermarket tune I have.
Perhaps I'm wrong in my understanding though...
I can think of no reason the engine tune would be affected by the transmission re-flash. To be sure, before purchasing Dinan transmission software I suggest you call Dinan and see what they say.
__________________
X5 4.6 2002 Black Sap, Black interior. 2013 X5M Melbourne Red, Bamboo interior
Dallas
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 11-17-2015, 09:16 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 2,216
Clockwork is on a distinguished road
Hi guys. So I was driving this weekend d with my Torque app on my phone open and I was watching the air intake temp as driving. While driving it stayed same temp as outside but as I came to stop lights I noticed the temps climb from 12 deg C to 27 deg C after 3 mins stopped. I was testing to see how much the CAI with a full metal shroud would heat up as vehicle sits with engine on.
Now I wonder if anyone has tried the same test on factory air box and seen if air intake temp increased in it too?
If factory air box does not cause air intake temp to heat up as much as this Dinan CAI has then I see less benefits to the CAI yet again.
__________________
I swear, my cars are like a girlfriend.
Sometimes its a rough ride, sometimes its smooth motorin'.
Sometimes she doesnt like how i treat her and sometimes i dont like how she behaves.
BUT at the end of the day, she loves it when I am inside her.

_______________________
'91 850i
'05 X5 4.4i
'09 Clubman S
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 11-18-2015, 12:30 AM
bcredliner's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Little Elm,Texas. (40 minutes North of Dallas)
Posts: 8,108
bcredliner is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clockwork View Post
Hi guys. So I was driving this weekend d with my Torque app on my phone open and I was watching the air intake temp as driving. While driving it stayed same temp as outside but as I came to stop lights I noticed the temps climb from 12 deg C to 27 deg C after 3 mins stopped. I was testing to see how much the CAI with a full metal shroud would heat up as vehicle sits with engine on.
Now I wonder if anyone has tried the same test on factory air box and seen if air intake temp increased in it too?
If factory air box does not cause air intake temp to heat up as much as this Dinan CAI has then I see less benefits to the CAI yet again.
I would expect that the air temp would increase with any system. I would be surprised if it didn't. CAI is for performance. Doesn't matter what happens to air temp idling at a stoplight.
__________________
X5 4.6 2002 Black Sap, Black interior. 2013 X5M Melbourne Red, Bamboo interior
Dallas
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 11-18-2015, 10:20 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Virigina, USA
Posts: 2,573
StephenVA is on a distinguished road


Everyone one of these intake methods draws from the front of the vehicle. The air intake temp is effected by the hottest thing in the area, the radiator. The fan wash is moving air thru and out of the engine bays outlets. At idle the whole area around the front of the car is effected +- 3/10 degrees, if not more (I will have to go and test air temps one day). On hot days it seems like 50 degrees just walking by one running.

When moving, the temps settle down to atmospheric as the cooler air pushes thru the intake system. No one measures heat soak at idle on performance. The M5 board recommends moving the IAT up stream to get the most performance off idle after heat soak, as the read and react from those sensors is not instant. For the X5, I would drive and enjoy the new intake sucking sounds coming from the engine bay.

The Dinan CAI is one of the mods I would like to do, just on the eye candy level. Nice fit and finish compared to others on the market. The prices accordingly reflect that.
__________________

2005 X5 4.8IS
The Blue ones are always FASTER....

Current Garage:
2005 X5 4.8is
2002 M5 TiSilver
2003 525iT
1998 528i
Former Garage Stable Highlights
2004 325XiT Sport
1973 De Tomaso Pantera, L Model
1970 Dodge Challenger T/A 4 sp Alpine White
1970 Dodge Challenger T/A 4 sp GoManGo Green
1971 Dart Sport, “Dart Light” package
1969 Road Runner 383
1968 Ply Barracuda 340S FB Sea-foam Green

Last edited by StephenVA; 11-18-2015 at 10:28 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 11-18-2015, 11:58 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 2,216
Clockwork is on a distinguished road
I know the heat causes other things in the engine bay to heat up by conduction, but I wasnt sure if the factory air box somehow was able to help keep the IAT cooler at idle...
My worry was that the temp at take off/accel from zero after sitting for a minute (say in traffic) was too warm and harming the acceleration of vehicle with the CAI and its full shroud (as full as it is, there are still some gape air could seep into the shroud/CAI) where as the factory airbox is fully enclosed...

thanks guys for your feedback. I will stop watching the Intake Air Temp gauge now/worrying over nothing.
I do surely enjoy its sound not. Took some getting used to, but I enjoy its rumble.
__________________
I swear, my cars are like a girlfriend.
Sometimes its a rough ride, sometimes its smooth motorin'.
Sometimes she doesnt like how i treat her and sometimes i dont like how she behaves.
BUT at the end of the day, she loves it when I am inside her.

_______________________
'91 850i
'05 X5 4.4i
'09 Clubman S
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 11-18-2015, 12:15 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 2,216
Clockwork is on a distinguished road
So I have the Dinan CAI with full shroud installed on my 2005 4.4i. I believe the shroud was for a pre-facelift model X as there are many cut-outs/holes with rubber grommets for piping I do not have in my 2005.
On the side of the shroud facing the engine, there is a hole and rubber grommet that I taped over to avoid warm/hot engine air to invade into.
I have now removed the tape covering that approx 1" diameter hole and have since reinstalled the down pipe from the air intake cowl to direct air flow into this hole and potentially into the CAI. From looking at pics on the net, I'm noticing no one else runs the air cowl's down pipe to side of shroud, making me believe some people may not have this hole.
I'm debating on actually cutting a larger hole in the side of the metal shroud and extending the down pipe into this hole to provide even more ambient temp air flow into CAI. Has anyone else done this?
Or do people just cover off the hole, if they have one on their shroud, and be happy with it?
__________________
I swear, my cars are like a girlfriend.
Sometimes its a rough ride, sometimes its smooth motorin'.
Sometimes she doesnt like how i treat her and sometimes i dont like how she behaves.
BUT at the end of the day, she loves it when I am inside her.

_______________________
'91 850i
'05 X5 4.4i
'09 Clubman S
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 11-18-2015, 01:25 PM
bcredliner's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Little Elm,Texas. (40 minutes North of Dallas)
Posts: 8,108
bcredliner is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clockwork View Post
So I have the Dinan CAI with full shroud installed on my 2005 4.4i. I believe the shroud was for a pre-facelift model X as there are many cut-outs/holes with rubber grommets for piping I do not have in my 2005.
On the side of the shroud facing the engine, there is a hole and rubber grommet that I taped over to avoid warm/hot engine air to invade into.
I have now removed the tape covering that approx 1" diameter hole and have since reinstalled the down pipe from the air intake cowl to direct air flow into this hole and potentially into the CAI. From looking at pics on the net, I'm noticing no one else runs the air cowl's down pipe to side of shroud, making me believe some people may not have this hole.
I'm debating on actually cutting a larger hole in the side of the metal shroud and extending the down pipe into this hole to provide even more ambient temp air flow into CAI. Has anyone else done this?
Or do people just cover off the hole, if they have one on their shroud, and be happy with it?
Call Dinan, they did the engineering, design and testing. Input here may be interesting but that's about all.

Mine has the hole and it is utilized. My guess is the same CAI covers several models and configurations and if Dinan was concerned about it they would have had something in the kit to cover the holes not used on a particular model configuration--reiterate guess.

The performance of the CAI is maximized by the engine software. If the change in airflow is significant from stock the performance contribution from the software could be compromised--at best logical.
__________________
X5 4.6 2002 Black Sap, Black interior. 2013 X5M Melbourne Red, Bamboo interior
Dallas
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 11-30-2016, 01:17 PM
CleanIsFast's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 956
CleanIsFast is on a distinguished road
I just snagged a brand new in the box (D760-0530)
__________________
2004 BMW M3 Individual
2009 BMW E70 X5 35d
2011 BMW E70 X5 35d - Totaled
2009 BMW M3 E90 - SOLD
2006 E53 X5 4.8iS - SOLD
2002 E46 M3 Convertible - SOLD
2006 E46 M3 ZCP - SOLD
2011 E70 X5 35d - SOLD
2000 E39 ///M5 - SOLD
2003 E53 X5 4.6iS - SOLD
2006 E83 X3 3.0i MSport - SOLD
2000 E46 323Ci - SOLD
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 11-30-2016, 03:02 PM
bcredliner's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Little Elm,Texas. (40 minutes North of Dallas)
Posts: 8,108
bcredliner is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by CleanIsFast View Post
I just snagged a brand new in the box (D760-0530)
Nice find!
__________________
X5 4.6 2002 Black Sap, Black interior. 2013 X5M Melbourne Red, Bamboo interior
Dallas
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
bmw x5, cai, cold air intake, dinan, e53

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:56 PM.
vBulletin, Copyright 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
© 2017 Xoutpost.com. All rights reserved. Xoutpost.com is a private enthusiast site not associated with BMW AG.
The BMW name, marks, M stripe logo, and Roundel logo as well as X3, X5 and X6 designations used in the pages of this Web Site are the property of BMW AG.
This web site is not sponsored or affiliated in any way with BMW AG or any of its subsidiaries.