Spy shots: Next M5 to feature twin-turbo V8, KERS - Page 2

FSETH · #1 06-26-2009, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SANguru

LOL.. that fat dude on motorweek is a joke.. Top Gear praised the handling, brakes and useable power of the CTS-V, it's about time BMW went FI on the M cars.. the E60 m5 I had was slow as hell off the line and had no torque... the brakes were also crap since it wasn't even a multi piston design. I had major brake fade on the one track day with that car even with better brake fluid.

KERS will be interesting for sure in an M car. Nice to see them implementing it even as they drop it for their F1 cars.

I wouldn't say sub 4.5 seconds is "slow as hell off the line" for a decent sized sedan. I know the MB's and CTS-V are faster, but M has never really been about huge torque figures. More about higher revving, higher speed performance. That is why the M5 typically beats MB's when it comes to track comparisons. I would guess that torque will be bumped significantly with the new TT though.

I hear you about typical BMW brakes when it comes to track days. As good as the brakes are on the road, fade during track days has been a complaint for a while now. Even on M cars with stock equipment.

SANguru · #2 06-26-2009, 12:31 AM

again.. sounds like you have never driven or owned an e60 m5. NO TORQUE. 0-60 is all about traction and not as much about HP and torque so the numbers you are quoting and making assumption thereof is irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by FSETH

KERS will be interesting for sure in an M car. Nice to see them implementing it even as they drop it for their F1 cars.

I wouldn't say sub 4.5 seconds is "slow as hell off the line" for a decent sized sedan. I know the MB's and CTS-V are faster, but M has never really been about huge torque figures. More about higher revving, higher speed performance. That is why the M5 typically beats MB's when it comes to track comparisons. I would guess that torque will be bumped significantly with the new TT though.

I hear you about typical BMW brakes when it comes to track days. As good as the brakes are on the road, fade during track days has been a complaint for a while now. Even on M cars with stock equipment.

m5james · #3 06-26-2009, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SANguru

LOL.. that fat dude on motorweek is a joke.. Top Gear praised the handling, brakes and useable power of the CTS-V, it's about time BMW went FI on the M cars.. the E60 m5 I had was slow as hell off the line and had no torque... the brakes were also crap since it wasn't even a multi piston design. I had major brake fade on the one track day with that car even with better brake fluid.

1stE53 · #4 01-16-2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by m5james

Too bad they're behind the ball on finally getting around to it. CTS-V....20k less, and every review i've ever read says it handles and drives better. Merc's been handing our asses to us for how long...c'mon BMW.

I don't care what Cadillac says, they still look cheap inside and out when compared to a BMW and especially to a Merc E63!!!! It can be fast as hell, a la Vet, but if it looks and feels cheap... What the hell is the point. Another think I don't like about Caddy is that the average person will NEVER tell a regular CTS vs a V. At least BMW and Merc look the part.

Damn that car looks sexy!!!!!!!

I have never seen rotors that close to the rims, I love it!

LeMansX5 · #5 01-25-2011, 09:10 AM

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LeMansX5 · #6 01-30-2011, 08:53 PM

Some nice but not so true rendering of new M5.

themoth · #7 06-26-2009, 12:03 AM

Love the 5er and glad to see the boost. need to update my e39 m....

m5james · #8 06-26-2009, 12:34 AM

For the RARE times i've tracked any of my cars, i'd rather have street performance all day long. If I wanted to rev the piss outta my car to get any power from it, i'd have bought an S2000.

FSETH · #9 06-26-2009, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by m5james

For the RARE times i've tracked any of my cars, i'd rather have street performance all day long. If I wanted to rev the piss outta my car to get any power from it, i'd have bought an S2000.

Yeah or an MB. That may be the better choice. BMW's have never been drag racers first, complete cars second.

AzNMpower32 · #10 06-26-2009, 10:44 AM

I wonder what that's going to do to the weight of the M5. Even the current E60 M5 isn't exactly what you'd call.......light. As much of a performance car as it is, I wouldn't buy one as a "sports car". I'll take a M5 Touring for the hilarity of it, but for an executive sedan, a 550i suffices. Or a 540i for that matter. If I wanted a sports car, an M3 is good enough for me.