Yup, it's always a conspiracy theory.

You can add it to your growing list of conspiracy theories like the one about the Spanish not sinking the USS Maine, the one about the Vietnameese not firing on an American naval ship in the Gulf of Tonkin, and even the biggest and craziest conspiracy theory of them all, thought up by the mad scientist Galileo Galilei, who suggested that the Holy Bible and the entire Catholic Church was wrong and that the Earth did indeed revolve around the Sun, not the other way around. Good thing they put him in his place by putting him in prison.

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Then there's alway this. Minister blesses the troops on this side to win the battle. Then there's another minister blessing the troops on the other side.
Now the question is who's side is God on???



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God doesn't pick sides

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Nice try.

You're the one that posted the link. I didn't have to look anywhere but your link to Amazon to find that.

As to conspiracies, you're the one that thinks there's some grand conspiracy by the Adminsitration to line their pockets. I don't think there's a conspiracy anywhere. That's what I find so funny about your posts.

Why don't you pull up some more multi-century old "conspiracies" to prove your point? All you ever find is things too old to matter, or a Nazi comparison. The closest you've got is over 40 years old - happened before you were born. You need to broaden your educational base.

Surely you can find something from within your lifetime, as terrible as all these corporation-loving Republican administrations have been?

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Reynold's Wrap: it's not just for hats anymore.

I am still amazed that you never came at me on the communist rebuttal but instead go after the low hanging fruit of one scentence in a secondary post but on the other hand I think there are a lot fewer google searches and old conspiracy theories you can bring into that arguement

It really is too bad I am only on here at the office I would have loved to get back to this conversation last night

Unfortunately I had a really hard time getting that done being a republican and all I was way too busy robbing bums, causing poverty and increasing the monetary gap in middle class america while riding on the backs of the working class...and changing tires on my car

Sure, there are lots of them. But what constitutes proof?

I'm pretty sure you would want the following proof:

1) Either the guilty parties confess

or

2) Government files proving guilt


Since FOIA does not allow for the releasing of classified files until many years afterwards, so unless the guilty parties confess (rather unlikely), you will not be satisfied.

For example, the above 3 conspiracies I listed did not become truely accepted until many years after they occured. Even 20 years ago most people did not accept that LBJ lied about the Gulf of Tonkin even though the "Pentagon Papers" had proved this. It was not until actual audio recordings of LBJ in the White House were released several years ago that most people were finally convinced. And with the USS Maine, it wasn't until the 1970s that the government finally admitted that the Spanish were not responsible, 75 years after it happened.

But I ask you this: Why do all these large corporations spend millions of dollars giving campaign contributions to political candidates on both sides, and why do they also spend millions on lobbying? Are they just stupid, or could it be that these investments pay dividends?

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Is that the question you really want to ask?

I ask because it's so stupid.

Let's see...who makes the laws governing corporate behavior in our society?
Hmm...
Would it be the legislative bodies at the local, state, and federal level?

Of course corporations spend money trying to influence politicians! If they didn't, they'd be completely stupid, and unworthy of being in charge of their company.

What point were you trying to make? That attempting to influence the people in charge is wrong? It only is if they break the law in the process - or in the "influencee" breaks the law.

Remember the old maxim: "It's not what you know, but who." You may not like it, but that's the way the world works.

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When you say "attempting", then you are implying that it doesn't work. Obviously it does work, or they wouldn't do it.

So if you are Lockheed, why would you give tons of money to both Kerry and Bush campaigns? What possible decisions would the President make that would help your company out? The president does not award contracts to military contractors. In fact, he has no involvement whatsoever in that. So then why would they do this?

The answer is that the president can take the country to war, which will result in increased profits for Lockheed, who is the #1 military contractor. The President can also push for a higher Defense budget, which will also result in increased profits for them.

And Lockheed obviously feels that giving all this campaign money will result in higher profits, which implies that they think they have an effect on his decisions, which they indeed do.

So to sum up, you have large corporations giving money to the President (and congress) which results in them spending more on Defense than they would otherwise, and more likely to go to war than they would otherwise.

And no, in our current messed up system, this is not illegal or "breaking the law".

So are you happy knowing that profit levels of the large military contractors is a major factor in the military decisions our leaders make?

From your comment "Remember the old maxim: "It's not what you know, but who." You may not like it, but that's the way the world works.", it appears you are content with knowing this. I am not.

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Does HE-MAN?

Man I remember wasting hours and lots of my parents $$$$ calling the hotline just to speak with HE-MAN.

"BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL..... I HAVE THE POWER!"

Wow way off topic, I need mucho sleep. Sorry guys.