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Old 08-08-2009, 11:49 AM
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what are you trying to take pics of? How much do you want to spend? Do you want to get e DSLR or a point and shoot? besides a I still know professional photographers shooting with 20D and 30D... it's all about the lenses.
I'm all over the board obviously. I thought the 40D was less expensive, guess not. Probably too much camera for me. Ok, I want a GREAT point and shoot . The one I listed also takes 720p HD video which would be cool. Maybe I'll go check out reviews at the AV Forum.
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Old 08-08-2009, 11:55 AM
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I'm all over the board obviously. I thought the 40D was less expensive, guess not. Probably too much camera for me. Ok, I want a GREAT point and shoot . The one I listed also takes 720p HD video which would be cool. Maybe I'll go check out reviews at the AV Forum.
A point and shoot camera is a 'quickly' point and shoot camera. Good for close-ups etc. I have ruined quite few "otherwise good shots" with point and shoot. Get the one xnsf selling in classifieds.
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Old 08-08-2009, 01:34 PM
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You're probably right MD. What do you think about the new Canon Powershot sx200 is ?
I've read a few reviews, but it's not for me; my old Canon S50 does
fine for close in and quick shooting with very good color and image
capture, for a "pocket". I am not after a new pocket; next up is
a new DSLR, either Canon or Nikon, or maybe just a new lens or
two for my budget KonicaMinolta 5D, which is no slouch for the
stuff I shoot.

I was perusing DPReivew and am amazed at the models Canon has;
makes the ol'General Motors look focused, no pun. I was going
blind trying to differentiate the subtle differences between the plethora
of models. Image capture capability is still the deal, imo...12 meg of
pixels, etc., is not the chase.

That sx200 has a loooonngg focal length, maybe no necessary, but
decent macro.

I'm with SanGuru: what do you want/need in a new cam that your
current cam isn't giving you? I recall you bought a decent semi-pocket
Canon a couple years ago and I don't recall your pics sucking. So...
just the urge or are there some features that grab you?
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:43 AM
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I think you're SOL, they're discontinued. Try Adorama............. Be careful of refurbs, make sure it's new.

1901B010 Canon EOS-40D Digital SLR Camera Body Kit with EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 USM Image Stabilized Lens - USA Warranty

Adorama has the kits.
Actually, refurbs can be a very good buy!

A refurb may be an ex-store demo, possibly used in field tests or sales displays, or it may have been ordered in error and returned to the retailer (who can't then sell it as 'new' so it has to be sent back to the manufacturer for refurbishment). A refurb can also have simply been pulled from the production line if something appears faulty, or if it hasn't passed the final inspection.
Most of the time it is a very minor issue that needs correcting, nevertheless, once it is pulled from the normal flow of production, it gets flagged as a refurbished model, so you may get a unit straight from the factory that has never been used.

A refurbished item will have been checked over by the manufacturer by hand, inspected very thoroughly, diagnosed, and calibrated by experienced technicians, and could therefore turn out to be more dependable than a new item - which will only have been checked by a process of systematic quality control protocol (ie by random sampling as it comes off the conveyor belt).

In the past Adorama warranted Canon refurbished for 90 days; since 1st May, all Canon refurbished products from Adorama come with a 1 year return-to-Adorama warranty; 14 days from date of receipt for a full refund, and the balance for repair or replacement.

I hope this helps, but do let me know if you need anything else.
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Greg,

See if the Nikon D40 with the two lens kit, Nikon bag and a 7" LCD picture frame deal is available. A friend of mine picked all of these up for $550 or so at Ritz Camera. Its more than a camera (better than point and shoot) and ok lenses. Like someone else mentioned above, it is mostly about lenses when dealing with SLRs so once you are comfortable with a DSLR, you would want better lens.
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is adorama going to give all xoutpost member discounts?

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Actually, refurbs can be a very good buy!

A refurb may be an ex-store demo, possibly used in field tests or sales displays, or it may have been ordered in error and returned to the retailer (who can't then sell it as 'new' so it has to be sent back to the manufacturer for refurbishment). A refurb can also have simply been pulled from the production line if something appears faulty, or if it hasn't passed the final inspection.
Most of the time it is a very minor issue that needs correcting, nevertheless, once it is pulled from the normal flow of production, it gets flagged as a refurbished model, so you may get a unit straight from the factory that has never been used.

A refurbished item will have been checked over by the manufacturer by hand, inspected very thoroughly, diagnosed, and calibrated by experienced technicians, and could therefore turn out to be more dependable than a new item - which will only have been checked by a process of systematic quality control protocol (ie by random sampling as it comes off the conveyor belt).

In the past Adorama warranted Canon refurbished for 90 days; since 1st May, all Canon refurbished products from Adorama come with a 1 year return-to-Adorama warranty; 14 days from date of receipt for a full refund, and the balance for repair or replacement.

I hope this helps, but do let me know if you need anything else.
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:11 PM
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is adorama going to give all xoutpost member discounts?
I haven't bought anything from Adorama in a long time, not since I was treated like crap at the store on 18th st. I've got a pretty thick skin and it takes a lot to seriously piss me off, but the sales guy at Adorama that I dealt with one afternoon did a great job of it, and that was my last interaction with them. When I call a store, am told that they have what I'm looking for and that they'll hold it for me (from the time I hung up the phone to the time i showed up at the store was 30 minutes max) and then not only do they not hold it for me but don't have it in stock and THEN give me attitude when I show up to buy it, well,

The only reason I suggested Adorama to Greg was because they were the only store I could find that still had them new. Who knows, maybe they're changing their attitudes, as it seems with Helen scouring web forums for mentions of Adorama and offering assistance
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:12 PM
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Thanks gresch,
Not sure what I'm going to do right now. I think I'll wait a little bit for all the new models to come out
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:19 PM
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Thanks gresch,
Not sure what I'm going to do right now. I think I'll wait a little bit for all the new models to come out
Cool.

Just for the record, my advice about not buying refurbs was my opinion on not buying refurbs in general, not a comment about Adorama.
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You're probably right MD. What do you think about the new Canon Powershot sx200 is ?
I have the sx200is. It's a great second/travel camera when you just don't want to lug a DSLR around. However, it's no substitute for having a DSLR and I wish it had a PC sync port. At least it has creative and manual modes along with the standard P&S modes. The HD video is quite good but the zoom is digital only when shooting movies so I always shoot on wide. It's a good buy with the recent price drop if you are only considering compacts.
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