Originally Posted by EODguy

Wow....

Not one thought spared as to WHY he pled guilty (FBI threats to go after his family) and not even a raised eyebrow over the agents own words... (goal? investigate or get him to lie?) and how even 1 of the 2 interviewing agents said Flynn wasn't trying to lie but couldn't remember all of the details but he was overruled by the other interviewer Peter Strzok and that it was intentional...

I admit it's an opinion piece but HOW disingenuous can you be to completely ignore the facts that were stated to include what's above and just say it's opinion so it means nothing.

I would also remind folks that Judge Sullivan was made comments in this case before showing that he was not being impartial to Flynn in court previously and apologized for it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/u...entencing.html


A similar example would be:

Police think that you committed a crime but aren't sure what. During the investigation they don't find anything one way or the other and come talk to you and ask, "Did you drive over the speed limit 27 days ago or was it 25 days ago?" You not knowing they found a tape of you speeding 29 days ago and thinking I did speed but probably not more than 5-7mph say " I was speeding a little but it was 25 days ago."

Congratulations! You have committed what is known as a process crime if speaking to a federal agent or a police officer doing any kind of investigation.

Now they (investigators) say we are using this process "crime" to expand our investigation and we are going to be using similar methods as we have a talk with your family.... Unless, you admit that gave us the wrong information...

You suck it up and say yep I told you the wrong information (thereby meeting their agreement) protecting your family and then you hire lawyers to get the court to see that what really happened wasn't some intentional attempt to cover up speeding and once the truth came out due to notes from the investigators directly that you didn't do it intentionally and they had no reason to even begin their investigation you withdrawal your plea and the investigators bosses back it up saying it was shady AF. But now the judge says he wants you charged for your coerced plea being "perjury"....

Yeah, that seems totally legit!!

https://www.aclu.org/news/criminal-l...the-venom-out/

As was pointed out for the past few years "we must trust the system and the investigators" but apparently only if they are on the side someone is supporting or else it's all BS, yet when investigators and the system say that there were mistakes made it's now "BS" to trust the system or the investigators are doing... Hello hypocrites!!

Every American should understand that one miscarriage of justice used against someone who you dislike, hate or disagree with just means that when the worm turns it will be your turn.

We've seen that happen before and it ONLY cost an estimated 85 million lives.....

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. ~ Martin Niemöller

Niemöller’s belief was that Germans had been complicit through their silence in the Nazi imprisonment, persecution, and murder of millions of people and he spent the last 7 years of the war in a nazi concentration camp for finally standing up against the nazi's.

People that want a society where they support shit like this due to someone being part of an opposing group should be called out for it, because they are no better than nazi's, klansmen or supporters of the pogroms that happened worldwide and that they would even keep up support for such tells you that this can only end in bloodshed if it continues.

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Originally Posted by Maruzo

We are straying from the topic here folks. The goal is to provide useful information in combating this virus pandemic.

Please leave ur political opinions off this thread.

In other news, a satellite city in Los Angeles County (La Vern) is finally allowing the use of public tennis courts again.

Last Sunday morning at 6:30AM I got to play my first set of singles tennis in over 3 months.

It's almost comparable to seeing a beautiful bikini clad woman swimming towards the island you got stranded on.

Nothing beats the thrill and high of naturally released dopamine after a few hours of hitting that fuzzy little yellow ball.

Getting a good workout to improve your cardiovascular fitness and maintain your metabolism, while having fun? Can't beat tennis!

I seem to remember a few members here also enjoy playing. Hope your state has now allowed you to play as well.

As always, when out in the public, observe the social distance and keep your mask on except during play time.

Keeping fit, sleep well and maintaining a balanced lifestyle will boost your immune system to better fight off infections of all kinds.

Originally Posted by upallnight

Opinions are not FACTS. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

Originally Posted by EODguy

Yes they are but morons who can't understand an opinion piece that lists the facts that can be looked up by a cross eyed 6 year old seems a lot more common...

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Originally Posted by crystalworks

Our tennis courts are now open also. But I haven't played in a year. Waiting to go get an elbow injury looked at but am not going to do it during the pandemic. What level player are you maruzo? 4.5 here. Though probably play like a 3.5 after all the time off.

People are definitely out more here, but businesses are requiring masks and distance. People are obliging for the most part. We avoid going out to businesses though and took a nice 3 hour drive out in the hook country this weekend to get out of the house. My Mom's 14 day quarantine ends soon so we are looking forward to being able to go over there again.