RE: X5 Unrelated, but Good Information in Times of Need - Page 40

Overboost · #**391** 05-03-2020, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcredliner

Yes, this is within the second article. If you read further to the start of section two, the second article disagrees with the business Insider article. At least part of the reason for the second article is pointing out the flaws in the Business Insider article.

If the measurements from Lancet article are correct, then it suggests the N95 can still allow some virus particles less than .3 microns to pass.

Again, it doesn't matter to me either way. I wear a mask where it is mandated, plenty of places are requiring them now.

Sponsored Links

bcredliner · #**392** 05-04-2020, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overboost

If the measurements from Lancet article are correct, then it suggests the N95 can still allow some virus particles less than .3 microns to pass.

Again, it doesn't matter to me either way. I wear a mask where it is mandated, plenty of places are requiring them now.

I assume you don't wear a N95 mask since you don't believe it is effective. What mask do you wear?

Happy · #**393** 05-04-2020, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcredliner

Hard to have any good feelings with a pandemic circling overhead. . Can you give me an example or two of inconsistencies, things that don't add up and what science hasn't added up?

One of two consistencies would be, the origin of the virus. They say it came from bats. Bats have been around for as long as humans. The WORLD never got sick. Especially the way this virus spreads, mutates, infects, symptoms, and so on.

Two, they say it is a natural occurring virus. Then why don’t human beings have a natural immunity to it. We’re all supposed to believe that this virus just popped out of the wood works one day, so to speak.

They say, the location of what they call the first infection, happened in a market in Wuhan. The thing is, that market is within a close distance to a lab. A lab where viral studies are performed. The break down of this virus revealed some pretty nasty components. Hard to believe nature put these components into one virus.

So the first case, if they became sick from a bat? Why weren’t they hospitalized for food poisoning, or from touching something, not washing their hands and ending up with dysentery.? We’re all supposed to believe that the individual from the first original case, stood to close to bats and again got the whole world sick.

And, why the major shock to the global economy. Ok, people are getting sick and dying. But unfortunately, it happens every minute on earth. But again, why the loss of trillions in our stock market from a natural occurring virus? Wouldn’t it be prudent to preserve wealth? Now we don’t only have to recover from a virus, we now have to recover financially. Come on, give me a break, I wasn’t born yesterday.

The big one, the masks. From the beginning they said nothing can totally filter this virus. But, wearing a mask helps with the transmission of the virus. I’ll agree with that.

But, let’s dig deeper. Essential operations, grocery stores, hardware stores, gas stations, banks, etc. In Houston I’ve seen hoards of people in the hardware stores, and grocery stores. Masks, gloves the whole nine. Now to me with the exception of bars, and gyms. You know places that are easy to transmit illnesses, why can’t the same practice as the hardware store apply to all other business.

The science says, the masks and gloves work. If it’s safe to do business in a grocery store, why isn’t it safe to business in a clothing store, or electronics store? Or, for that matter Overboost says he operates his own business. Why can’t he practice what science says is a safe way to do business, and continue operations?

Why a complete shutdown of the most powerful county in the world?

Why does the United States have the most cases in the world, when this started in China? And don’t rely on, oh we didn’t do enough.

BC, do a thorough investigation into these simple matters using the available reporting, and you will find inconsistencies.

Again, in an investigation. If there are inconsistencies and conflicts in the accounts that have been reported, you probably have not received the entire truth.

One day we will have a clearer perspective. JMHO...

bcredliner · #**394** 05-04-2020, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy

One of two consistencies would be, the origin of the virus. They say it came from bats. Bats have been around for as long as humans. The WORLD never got sick. Especially the way this virus spreads, mutates, infects, symptoms, and so on.

I agree that bats have been involved in spreading many bad viruses to man. Different viruses have different characteristics COVID 19 is really bad one. How mobile we are is a big contributor to viruses impacting more of the world don't you think?

Two, they say it is a natural occurring virus. Then why don’t human beings have a natural immunity to it. We’re all supposed to believe that this virus just popped out of the wood works one day, so to speak.

A naturally occurring virus is different than a natural immunity. Immunity comes from having antibodies from having the disease, vaccinations etc. Right?

They say, the location of what they call the first infection, happened in a market in Wuhan. The thing is, that market is within a close distance to a lab. A lab where viral studies are performed. The break down of this virus revealed some pretty nasty components. Hard to believe nature put these components into one virus.

This virus is certainly a bad one. WH house is investigating whether virus is manmade. Comments from experts I have heard say it is not. I'll go with the scientists on this one.

So the first case, if they became sick from a bat? Why weren’t they hospitalized for food poisoning, or from touching something, not washing their hands and ending up with dysentery.? We’re all supposed to believe that the individual from the first original case, stood to close to bats and again got the whole world sick.

I don't understand your point about food poisoning, not washing hands etc.
Why would you have to be close to a bat?

And, why the major shock to the global economy. Ok, people are getting sick and dying. But unfortunately, it happens every minute on earth. But again, why the loss of trillions in our stock market from a natural occurring virus? Wouldn’t it be prudent to preserve wealth? Now we don’t only have to recover from a virus, we now have to recover financially. Come on, give me a break, I wasn’t born yesterday.

The impacts to the economy and stock market are cause and effect. COVID 19 is the cause and the effects are the negative impact to to the economy and stock market. The economy shock was because the country was closed and other countries had already closed that traded with us. The stock market dropped because of impending impact to our economy, negative effect on big companies, the economies of other countries all ready impacted, the market view of how the virus was being addressed, there was no known end in sight, no way to know how many people would get sick or die, etc.

The big one, the masks. From the beginning they said nothing can totally filter this virus. But, wearing a mask helps with the transmission of the virus. I’ll agree with that.

But, let’s dig deeper. Essential operations, grocery stores, hardware stores, gas stations, banks, etc. In Houston I’ve seen hoards of people in the hardware stores, and grocery stores. Masks, gloves the whole nine. Now to me with the exception of bars, and gyms. You know places that are easy to transmit illnesses, why can’t the same practice as the hardware store apply to all other business.

State governors decide who opens or remains closed. Different states can have different criterial. Why are Dallas and Houston opening anything?

The science says, the masks and gloves work. If it’s safe to do business in a grocery store, why isn’t it safe to business in a clothing store, or electronics store? Or, for that matter Overboost says he operates his own business. Why can’t he practice what science says is a safe way to do business, and continue operations?

That is the decision of each individual governor. I don't know the rationales but my guess is their conclusions were based on how likely people will be infected. If Overboost can't go back to work it should be because the guidelines in his area but you will have to ask him.

Why a complete shutdown of the most powerful county in the world?

I don't understand how our power matters unless we had the power unless we had the power stop the virus and didn't use it. Did we use it and fail?

Why does the United States have the most cases in the world, when this started in China? And don’t rely on, oh we didn’t do enough.

The first step the US made was address flights from China which was already too late. At that time there were no restrictions on arrivals from Europe to find those infected. To this day the President is still telling us it is not as bad as the experts say, thus experts are too careful what they can say and what they dare correct. This virus is brand new. We are learning a lot but we are a long way away from learning enough to do everything correctly. There are no standards for a plan for reopening from WH. I would say the CDC is far more qualified to prepare a plan than our Governor, wouldn't you agree? And, it is true that we didn't do enough soon enough and still are not capable of the amount of testing and tracking per the guidelines.

BC, do a thorough investigation into these simple matters using the available reporting, and you will find inconsistencies.

If there are inconsistencies and conflicts in the accounts that have been reported, you probably have not received the entire truth.

It could be true that conflicting information indicates there are falsehoods. Couldn't it mean that there are only differences of opinion, some bogus information out there, political spins, fake news etc that is just confusing?

One day we will have a clearer perspective. JMHO...

Ol' happy days

Overboost · #**395** 05-04-2020, 07:30 PM

Honestly it looks like things are turning around for me and my business. Several states are loosening restrictions and I have a 3 day test at Virginia International Raceway starting Thursday. Less than completely busy but it will at least help pay some bills this month. Another team is testing at Road Atlanta at the start of June for a couple of days and then my schedule is back in full swing traveling back to VIR that day for round 2 of the SRO GT4 America series followed by back to back events for the entire month. Another positive is the phone is ringing again and I have some race prep shop days in the works as well. May might turn out to be a little less than normal but June is flat out.

I checked with the track officials and we have to keep our pitbox less than 10 people but no masks required.

Maruzo · #**396** 05-04-2020, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcredliner

Ol' happy days

Maruzo · #**397** 05-04-2020, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upallnight

The mask is supposed to stop the wearer from expelling the virus (through micro-droplet or spit) to others if they are wearing the mask. To prove this theory put on a mask go to the bathroom and try spitting with the mask on onto the mirror. Do you see any spits on the mirror? Now take the mask off and spit on the mirror. See the difference? It's not "Rocket Science" people. The mask is just another barrier to stop the spread of the virus.

Happy · #**398** 05-04-2020, 09:03 PM

I agree that bats have been involved in spreading many bad viruses to man. Different viruses have different characteristics COVID 19 is really bad one. How mobile we are is a big contributor to viruses impacting more of the world don't you think?

I think it is a major contributing factor. Do you think mobiltiy can be weaponized?

A naturally occurring virus is different than a natural immunity. Immunity comes from having antibodies from having the disease, vaccinations etc. Right?

Then we should have ceased to exist years ago. Due to all of the brand new naturally occurring viruses from the beginning of time, from bats, etc. It should have wiped us out already. Prior to vaccinations.

This virus is certainly a bad one. WH house is investigating whether virus is manmade. Comments from experts I have heard say it is not. I'll go with the scientists on this one.

If inconsistencies have already been discovered in the reporting, how can you trust any report? Government official, scientist, reporters, etc.

I don't understand your point about food poisoning, not washing hands etc.
Why would you have to be close to a bat?

In one report it was said that the individual consumed the bat. If it were tainted meat wouldn't you just end up with food poisoning. If that was false reporting, and it was exposure to the bats themselves in an open market, it would then be the handling of the animals. That would mean the lab plays no role in the exposure. I am waiting for more evidence before I come to any conclusion.

The impacts to the economy and stock market are cause and effect. COVID 19 is the cause and the effects are the negative impact to to the economy and stock market. The economy shock was because the country was closed and other countries had already closed that traded with us. The stock market dropped because of impending impact to our economy, negative effect on big companies, the economies of other countries all ready impacted, the market view of how the virus was being addressed, there was no known end in sight, no way to know how many people would get sick or die, etc.

Yes, but do you think there was transfer of wealth? Do you think people/countries capitalized on the crash? Do you think the crash was exacerbated by any of the preceding questions?

State governors decide who opens or remains closed. Different states can have different criterial. Why are Dallas and Houston opening anything?

Houston has been discussing the reopening in phases. My assumption is, money.

That is the decision of each individual governor. I don't know the rationales but my guess is their conclusions were based on how likely people will be infected. If Overboost can't go back to work it should be because the guidelines in his area but you will have to ask him.

But if the masks work for the grocery store and hardware store, why not all commerce?

I don't understand how our power matters unless we had the power unless we had the power stop the virus and didn't use it. Did we use it and fail?

A bat vs. U.S.A, and the winner is.. A bat shutdown the most powerful country in the world? A sick bat at that! We better go back and reevaluate the real threat to our national security then. Is it Trump, or the bats?

The first step the US made was address flights from China which was already too late. At that time there were no restrictions on arrivals from Europe to find those infected. To this day the President is still telling us it is not as bad as the experts say, thus experts are too careful what they can say and what they dare correct. This virus is brand new. We are learning a lot but we are a long way away from learning enough to do everything correctly. There are no standards for a plan for reopening from WH. I would say the CDC is far more qualified to prepare a plan than our Governor, wouldn't you agree? And, it is true that we didn't do enough soon enough and still are not capable of the amount of testing and tracking per the guidelines.

So, the million dollar question is..? Where those flights weaponized?

It could be true that conflicting information indicates there are falsehoods. Couldn't it mean that there are only differences of opinion, some bogus information out there, political spins, fake news etc that is just confusing?

Or could it be that information is being hidden? And its leading to reporting that is incomplete or inaccurate.

Only time will tell what really happened during the start of 2020. But I am definitely not going to be naïve to what is happening around me.

Happy · #**399** 05-04-2020, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overboost

Honestly it looks like things are turning around for me and my business. Several states are loosening restrictions and I have a 3 day test at Virginia International Raceway starting Thursday. Less than completely busy but it will at least help pay some bills this month. Another team is testing at Road Atlanta at the start of June for a couple of days and then my schedule is back in full swing traveling back to VIR that day for round 2 of the SRO GT4 America series. Another positive is the phone is ringing and have some race prep shop days in the works as well. May might turn out to be a little less than normal but June is flat out.

I checked with the track officials and we have to keep our pitbox less than 10 people but no masks required.

Man, that’s good to know Boost! I hope you get your normalcy back.

Overboost · #**400** 05-04-2020, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy

Man, that’s good to know Boost! I hope you get your normalcy back.

Thanks Happy. Amazing what a difference a week makes. I ran down to Georgia a week ago the day after they opened that state for some work on my E46 and saw a bustling economy everywhere. People out, people shopping and people getting on with their lives with minimal restrictions. Sure enough, multiple states including yours have followed suit.

It's time for this hysteria to end. I understand there will be "those guys" that are afraid of their own shadow and will do anything to validate their positions but they should just stay home and let the rest of us move on with our lives.

Sponsored Links