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Old 07-29-2020, 01:57 AM
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So Trump has been reversing course on strategies to contain the pandemic. He's now supporting the use of masks, and he also agrees that things will "get worse before it gets better."

Then last night Trump retweeted a video tweeted by a woman whom he claims to be "a great doctor".

The video says "..mask don't work, and there's a cure for covid19". She also says that "...doctors make medicines using dnas from aliens, and that they're trying to create a vaccine that make you immune from being religious".

Trump tried to defend the woman too. Saying that "they were big fans of hydroxychloroquine..." and that he thinks she's "very impressive". And he thinks "her voice was an important voice". and that "she's had tremendous success with hundreds of patients".

Then after the CNN reporter's questions, the tweets from the woman and Trump's subsequent retweets were quickly taken off from all social media platforms, Tweeter, Facebook, youtube.

The social media companies removed the videos because "there's misinformation elevated by the president."

Here's an interesting question: Who's behind the original tweeting of these videos?

Before you guys chalk this up to another brain freeze of the president, please remember that he has 80 million tweeter followers.

He has massive clout as a social media influencer. And this is the kind of trash and conspiracy he believes in.

And please do not tell me he probably doesn't believe in it.

Seriously, I have no words.

Those of you still pining for this president.... Let's just say please remember to keep your options open.
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Old 07-29-2020, 11:10 AM
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80 million Twitter followers because controversy. I guarantee you those 80 million followers include bot accounts, news media (on both sides), foreign entities, and even opposing voters. Not all of that huge number are supporters (thank goodness). If I were in charge at a social media company I would have banned him long ago. Same for anti vaxers and flat earthers. It looks like a significant portion of the population gets all their news from social media and is extremely gullible. I realize that's tantamount to censorship, but social media companies are private entities so I'm fine with them choosing appropriate content for their platforms.
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Old 07-29-2020, 12:16 PM
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IMO, at some point there will be federal social media regulations/standards just as there are for TV and movies. They will apply to both public and private companies. If left to the companies there will be no universal regulations or standards and most companies, especially pubic companies, will establish standards that generate the greatest stockholder value. Unfortunately, if that is the case, standards will not likely change much from how business is currently conducted. I see no reason that will even be worthwhile trying to do until the house, senate and administration are all of one party. And if there is major resistance from the public it could too hot of a potato to dare address by either party.
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Old 07-29-2020, 01:38 PM
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I’m not a die hard fan of either parties. But it seems to me Democrat’s policies so far has been pretty moderate compared to the new GOP, if the current administrations foreign policies are indeed the direction the new GOP is undertaking.

I don’t think Trump is a figurehead but then I also do not give him full credit for the policies of the current administration.
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Flynn is back in play.
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Old 07-31-2020, 01:41 AM
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Flynn is back in play.

Just one more pardon for the Orange one to do before he steals the silverware on his way out.


Flynn pleaded guilty to spare his son from criminal prosecution. Will Trump have to pardon the kid too?



Kid still has legal exposure even if dad is pardoned....
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Just one more pardon for the Orange one to do before he steals the silverware on his way out.


Flynn pleaded guilty to spare his son from criminal prosecution. Will Trump have to pardon the kid too?



Kid still has legal exposure even if dad is pardoned....
So people aren't bothered by the fact that the FBI and even their paperwork shows Flynn being railroaded (hence his original plea) but screw justice as he's part of a political party they don't agree with?

Wow!! That's exactly the same attitude people have in third world countries.

I don't care what someone's political beliefs are but using false/fabricated information to deprive people of their freedoms is wrong and additionally a judge is a referee so having a referee say you have to fight Mike Tyson when both Tyson and you don't want to box is just wrong.

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So people aren't bothered by the fact that the FBI and even their paperwork shows Flynn being railroaded (hence his original plea) but screw justice as he's part of a political party they don't agree with?

Wow!! That's exactly the same attitude people have in third world countries.

I don't care what someone's political beliefs are but using false/fabricated information to deprive people of their freedoms is wrong and additionally a judge is a referee so having a referee say you have to fight Mike Tyson when both Tyson and you don't want to box is just wrong.

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This is BS. Flynn didnt get railroaded.

He lied. His son and him were doing bad shit, ILLEGAL shit, and in order to not take that to trial he pled.

You’re drinking the cool aid. Hook line and sinker.

The only people that are believing this crap are right wing nuts and political flunky. Any decent DOJ line prosecutor is horrified by what Barr is doing here.

You’re mainliniing fox and OAN it seems.
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You apparently don't realize that I only get sky news, cnn and aljazira here reliably not fox and not oan.

The point is that if you had read the actual FBI files and 302's you would see that even the FBI interviewers said Flynn wasn't lying but under law enforcement investigations if today you said "I talked to person X on 18 Jan 2016 for 30 minutes" but the investigators find that it was 17 Jan 2016 and it was 40 minutes then you can now be charged with lying to a federal agent. It's not right but it is legal (barely) but still not right.

The fact that you base your belief on "getting" Trump shows you lack intelligence AND integrity. I have served and fought in Central and South America, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan and you epitomize the people of those countries. It's not that I care about your political affiliation but that you base your ideas of "JUSTICE" on violating the Rights of people whose political party is different than yours, exactly the same attitude racists have (one law for thee but not for me) and people like you are a stain on the fabric of America.

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You apparently don't realize that I only get sky news, cnn and aljazira here reliably not fox and not oan.

The point is that if you had read the actual FBI files and 302's you would see that even the FBI interviewers said Flynn wasn't lying but under law enforcement investigations if today you said "I talked to person X on 18 Jan 2016 for 30 minutes" but the investigators find that it was 17 Jan 2016 and it was 40 minutes then you can now be charged with lying to a federal agent. It's not right but it is legal (barely) but still not right.

The fact that you base your belief on "getting" Trump shows you lack intelligence AND integrity. I have served and fought in Central and South America, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan and you epitomize the people of those countries. It's not that I care about your political affiliation but that you base your ideas of "JUSTICE" on violating the Rights of people whose political party is different than yours, exactly the same attitude racists have (one law for thee but not for me) and people like you are a stain on the fabric of America.

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I think it's a little too easy to categorize people into particular political affiliation just by the news they watch, or the viewpoints they believe in.

I don't want to say you're the only ones stereotyping people, because I think most of us have been taught to do that when we're growing up.

I certainly have.

This doesn't just happen in the western culture. It's common practice in just about every culture that I've encountered.

While this way of categorizing people helps you avoid saying or doing the wrong things when you're interacting with people from a different race/ cultural background, you'd be surprised how many times one assumes wrong.

I think it's better to just argue the merits of the case presented in front of us. Let the fact speaks for itself. Don't make it about which party you believe in.

Sure most of the news out there are skewed, depending on whoever is controlling the source. But there's enough media channels out there with enough facts for you to gather information and then make an informed judgement.

Don't let your political affiliation limit you to the quality of the news you can obtain, or choose to listen.

As Mulder famously said: " The truth is out there."

You just have to find it. But until you do, don't jump the gun and commit your judgement.

With that being said, I don't know enough about Flynn's case to offer an opinion.

But I think EOD is a bit premature to assume that Ard's opinion has been affected by whichever political party he might be leaning towards.
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