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08-02-2020, 03:02 AM
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He lied. His son and him were doing bad shit, ILLEGAL shit, and in order to not take that to trial he pled. You’re drinking the cool aid. Hook line and sinker. The only people that are believing this crap are right wing nuts and political flunky. Any decent DOJ line prosecutor is horrified by what Barr is doing here. You’re mainliniing fox and OAN it seems. 
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08-02-2020, 06:52 AM
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You apparently don't realize that I only get sky news, cnn and aljazira here reliably not fox and not oan.
The point is that if you had read the actual FBI files and 302's you would see that even the FBI interviewers said Flynn wasn't lying but under law enforcement investigations if today you said "I talked to person X on 18 Jan 2016 for 30 minutes" but the investigators find that it was 17 Jan 2016 and it was 40 minutes then you can now be charged with lying to a federal agent. It's not right but it is legal (barely) but still not right. The fact that you base your belief on "getting" Trump shows you lack intelligence AND integrity. I have served and fought in Central and South America, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan and you epitomize the people of those countries. It's not that I care about your political affiliation but that you base your ideas of "JUSTICE" on violating the Rights of people whose political party is different than yours, exactly the same attitude racists have (one law for thee but not for me) and people like you are a stain on the fabric of America. Sent from my SM-A730F using Tapatalk
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08-02-2020, 02:39 PM
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I don't want to say you're the only ones stereotyping people, because I think most of us have been taught to do that when we're growing up. I certainly have. This doesn't just happen in the western culture. It's common practice in just about every culture that I've encountered. While this way of categorizing people helps you avoid saying or doing the wrong things when you're interacting with people from a different race/ cultural background, you'd be surprised how many times one assumes wrong. I think it's better to just argue the merits of the case presented in front of us. Let the fact speaks for itself. Don't make it about which party you believe in. Sure most of the news out there are skewed, depending on whoever is controlling the source. But there's enough media channels out there with enough facts for you to gather information and then make an informed judgement. Don't let your political affiliation limit you to the quality of the news you can obtain, or choose to listen. As Mulder famously said: " The truth is out there." You just have to find it. But until you do, don't jump the gun and commit your judgement. With that being said, I don't know enough about Flynn's case to offer an opinion. But I think EOD is a bit premature to assume that Ard's opinion has been affected by whichever political party he might be leaning towards.
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08-02-2020, 03:26 PM
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You have a computer, right? lemme know where you get your news. fox, oan, washingon times...brietbart... Or will you say 'only cnn, sky and aljazira'...I never look at ANY other websites? Quote:
So why did Flynn plead guilty- twice? Was he lying when he said "I am guilty"? Flynn and his son have legal exposure far beyond a 302 about lying. He was implicated in a series of issues and violations- from FARA to lobbying for (hostile) foreign governments to working to kidnap someone for rendition to Turkey. Federal proisecurots had the goods on him, and they kindly agreed to only charge him for the minor charge of lying. They let him off the hook BIG TIME and let him plead to lying. (Dont you remember that Flynn was a ‘cooperating witness’????? Or are we conveniently forgetting all this? If he was ONLY guilty of lying, and plead to lying, why would he ‘cooperate”????) Now, with Toady Barr running DOJ, Flynn’s defense gets to pretend “its only a little misstatement, look at the 302s” when in fact it is FAR more. Yet Barr will prevent any new charges, Barr is letting Flynn escape justice. It is a perversion of our justice system. If Barr didnt have his full body weight on the scales of justice, there is utterly no way his new attorneys could Have pulled this stunt. Barr is now corrupting DOJ with (your) argument that its all about 'only the interview'. Flynn is guilty, was guilty, and plead to this to avoid much larger issues. You wanna pretend it is only some minor misstatement, have at it. The good patriots that interviewed him and managed this righteous investigation disagree. And are getting their careers ruined by Barr and the political scumbags to protect Trumps scumbag. You claim this isnt political! This is the height of a political smear. Im not going to cast aspersions on your patriotism, and you shouldnt do that to me. You have utterly NO idea who I am nor what Ive done. Given your position on Flynn, Id love to delve into your beliefs about Gallagher and Lorance.... more persecution by Obama/deep state/corrupt military brass? Or you gonna surprise me here? What the Lorance debacle has done to his unit is utterly disgusting. Last edited by ard; 08-02-2020 at 07:09 PM.
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08-04-2020, 06:38 AM
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Since you seem to think you are so worldly and know about access to sites worldwide I'm posting a screenshot of OAN when in the Middle East and by the way Fox is a paid access site if you want to watch the news...  The answer to your question about why Flynn pled guilty is simple so you should be able to understand. 1.The DoJ is effectively without limits on power and funding when they are against anyone other than another government and if they don't think they will win in court they will do everything to strip you of the means to fight through threats, delays, spending, etc. (I.E. Cold War = outspending to win) As for why he was a (cooperating witness) the government's own paperwork said if he answered questions in other investigations (Russia, Russia) they would recommend a slap on the wrist with a felony conviction and not to find "something" on his son or if not they would recommend the maximum (gee not rocket surgery) 2. Per your "Flynn was implicated" statement since NO charges were brought it's not even up for discussion. Unless you think that someone saying "He did xyz" but we can't indict due to lack of proof should have to be proven innocent then you don't understand the Rights people have in America and I guess you shouldn't be concerned if someone were to "implicate" that you are into paedophilia. Correct? 3. Your... "Flynn is guilty, was guilty, pled guilty" is pure unadulterated bullshit simply due to the fact that in AMERICA you are still innocent until found guilty in a court of law. That means a trial, not some numpty's opinion. Thankfully.... I personally couldn't give a rat's ass about anyone's political affiliation, but when someone bases their every viewpoint solely on the fuck the Democrats or fuck the Republicans then they have zero ethics and I say again that is the exact same way racists think/believe. I was NOT casting aspersions about your patriotism. I was very clear that you lack beliefs other than you hate Trump so much that you don't want to judge someone on facts only on "he's Trump's guy" so fuck him and any Constitutional Rights. You are correct that I don't "know" you and what you've done, but I can get pretty close in my guess through deductive reasoning of what you have said previously. A. You are upper middle class. B. You have a college degree. C. You are married and most likely between 45 and 55 years old. D. You have followed the Democrat party almost exclusively except for the few times you threw your lot in with Bernie Sanders types and those CPUSA times in college. E. You are very vocal in standing up for the little guy, but only when it was 100% nonpolitical or dealt with issues that align with your hobbies/passions i.e. BMW, etc. and conversely stand against anyone whose beliefs are not the same as your own even if they have the same interests or hobbies as you and have conflated politics with patriotism. As for Chief Gallagher I actually have quite a few connections in the special operations community (Triple Canopy & EOD), and his case comes down to youngsters who had trouble dealing with old school operators and the dark humor that gets used. One who then admitted in the court martial that Eddie didn't kill the prisoner. The 1LT Clint Lowrance case is also one I am very familiar with due to the fact I donate vehicles and money to UAP to pay for attorneys for service members who are wrongfully accused or convicted of war crimes and support their dependents while in Leavenworth. Clint was convicted when a few of the problem children (previous commander's name for them) were under investigation for misdeeds months prior and miraculously were dropped from prosecution when they made their statements against Clint and said he was violating the law of warfare (he'd taken over a little more than a week before the supposed incident) yet come to find out that the 3 Afghans killed were all known Al Qaeda members (Haqqani) yet the JAG claimed that they were all innocent civilians and didn't disclose that fact to the court or defense. Try some research into America. https://books.google.com.sa/books/ab...on&redir_esc=y  Sent from my SM-A730F using Tapatalk
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08-22-2020, 01:16 AM
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So what, he was convicted in military court and sentenced..... But that was just 'youngsters not dealing with dark humor'? The officers that made up the military court that convicted him just couldnt deal with dark humor??? Sure bub. Sure (I'll note that he wasnt convicted of killing the prisoner, was he? Not sure why you bring that up, but I know you know there is more to that part of the story, eh?) Your ideas on how the DOJ should work are pretty limited. Since Flynn wasnt charged for some things, we are supposed to pretend the entire universe of his transgressions are the single lie he pled to? lol There is a reason the American system is based on the integrity of prosecutors to charge and prosecute. Saying you want to second guess that entire process with Cspan clips and media reports is either laughably naive or purposefully manipulative. And while I do have a hatred of Trump, which is based on what he has done to my country (yours too), I also have a hatred of xenophobic right wing anti-american whack jobs. III%, boogaloo, Q anon ....and scammers and grifters who are using the Trump administration to scam citizens of their money and lives. (I assume youve stocked up on a a supply of Zpacks and Hydroxy? Got your food supplements from Alex Jones? And your My Pillow too? And you're cool with the NRA illegally spending millions of members money on lining their personal pockets?) I guess, as they say, we can agree to disagree.
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#7
08-22-2020, 01:01 PM
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https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-...dead-detainee/ Eddie Gallagher.... They tried like hell to nail his ass because of the attitude of a couple of snowflakes WHO LIED and then could only convict him of taking a picture with a dead terrorist! General Flynn.... It's very fucked up that you don't even realize that your exact same type of attitude was what caused a miscarriage of justice to be perpetrated against Flynn. Now to your 100% dumbass comment that "Flynn wasn't charged for some things, we are supposed to pretend the entire universe of his transgressions are the single lie he pled to?" Where to start? First, is the US Government charges the fuck out of people and then try to get a plea and most (95%) do. Second, In America (the country you supposedly love) everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law and if someone isn't charged with a crime they don't have defend themselves against uncharged accusations. Which I am sure you're happy about or else, everyone would be angry that you haven't been charged for having sex with horses. Luckily accusations don't matter, only criminal charges. https://www.theepochtimes.com/sidney...e_3406464.html Now as for me... I have been in the Middle East continuously since 2008 so Zpacks, Hydroxy, etc really isn't anything I worry about having. I am more concerned with not being killed by some haji and making sure that people who want to harm Americans are dealt with outside of America. Now obviously you don't understand shit about this part of the world (or America) and you are operating solely on emotions and a gender studies degree, but if you feel that Trump and his supporters should be "dealt with" I suggest you step up and pull that trigger yourself instead of destroying everyone's Constitutional Rights in the pursuit of fucking people over who don't think, look or vote like you. It is interesting that you list III% as a group of whack jobs, racists or whatever SJW phrase you want to use. The III% is a group that supports the Constitutional Rights of all regardless of party and are willing to die to Support and Defend the Constitution against ALL enemies both foreign and domestic (basically anyone who wants to destroy people's Rights  ) I will admit that I am fairly uncomfortable arguing with you, but that's just due to you coming across as a morally bankrupt, unintelligent blowhard who should be wary of poking his eyes out with a fork while eating.  Sent from my SM-A730F using Tapatalk
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"When the Team Chief said.... You're trapped in a hole with nothing but a goat and a slinky, what do you do? Stubby said, I'm not sure but it won't end well for the goat...." ~(Overheard) Last day, Phase 3, Q Course
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08-04-2020, 10:09 AM
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https://apple.news/AwUdBA6C9ROmgxKma2w6WMA
Trumps replies to the interviewer is pretty wild and unbecoming of a man in his position. Retarded, narcissistic, and getting fact checked almost right after his every lie. His incompetence is shown all over the half hour + interview. He made no efforts to address John Lewis’ decade long effort fighting for civil rights. Instead of chastising Maxwell for aiding and abetting a well known sex trafficker of minors, he “wishes her Well.” The coronavirus virus claims were just sad and complete disaster. Yet some people continue to overlook his failures as a president and excuses him no matter how badly he fxxk up. Almost like a mom who continues to spoil her Narcissistic kid even after he is well into his 70s.
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08-04-2020, 01:54 PM
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As I have said before Trump does shit I don't like or can't stand but the point is that when anyone wants to go with a big "fuck you" on someone's Civil Rights just because they are for a different political party IT IS WRONG and the fact that this becomes a... Oh look how bad Trump is does absolutely zero to bolster people's claims that they believe in equal justice or even Civil Rights for an opposing party's fellow Americans. Hence why it is EXACTLY like the attitude of a racist. My issue is that people are using belief in a political party as justification and, to use a phrase we all know " a slippery slope" that MUST never happen for America and her Constitution to survive. If someone wants to use laws in an illegal and immoral manner to go after a person or party then the only way for that to be corrected is thru killing (civil war) or by using it against the perpetrators to restore balance, neither will be pretty and both will destroy America. If anyone wants to hate Trump go for it as I don't give a shit until it becomes the reason for a lack of sensibility, but as evidenced by some posts here that has already become the acceptable reason to ignore laws, rules and morals. I find this disgusting and I hope that pointing out the fallacy and danger of this banana republic justice style will make people realize that if it doesn't change back to following the Rights and laws of this Republic then war or tit-for-tat (which will lead to war) is the only outcome and at that point we can only hope we die in a pile of brass surrounded by those who destroyed our nation. Sent from my SM-A730F using Tapatalk
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08-04-2020, 04:04 PM
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Your reply to my post has no bearing or any reasonable argument since it doesn't address the actual interview at all!
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