What's the matter with Donald Trump.

[crystalworks]

My family's life was not better under Trump, or Biden. But if those two are put on the ticket again... Trump is getting my vote as the Democrats will be considered irredeemable in my opinion.

EOD, your list of Trump's accomplishments, while few had any affect on our personal situation (living in a South Texas "sanctuary" city) I would certainly consider more beneficial than Biden. Or maybe less damaging is a better way to put it. Thank you for posting it. The Democrats have been watching too many Disney movies and drinking too much Bud Light apparently. Can't get anything worthwhile done.

But, the Republican party is the other side of the same coin and both want the status quo to continue to further their own wealth and the wealth of their donors.

BTW, both Hunter and Trump should have been in jail long before either was anywhere near the White House. There is plenty of evidence against both and if there is any justice left in this country, both will end up behind bars.

Edit: Clarification. One Biden "accomplishment" that MIGHT benefit us is extending the energy tax credit. But, being that it's only a credit, it will only offset owed taxes. We are lower-middle class and don't make enough to have a tax liability at the end of the year (always "overpay" in paycheck) with deductions for the kids, etc. So this policy, while nice, does not help those who make less but still stretch their necks out to take the burden off our stretched thin grid. And we didn't do it to be "green" either... rather to save green. I had to do everything myself (did hire an electrician to check my work) because we were quoted a ridiculous $90k for our system. GTFOH. Anyway, I'm rambling, my point is, like most policy... it is designed to help the wealthy keep more of their money. Even CPS and SAWS credits work the same way. If you don't have a licensed pro come in and install for you, you don't qualify. Even though we've cut our energy consumption by 30-50%, depending on weather, we get f*cked.

The reason it MIGHT benefit us is that I have been betting on a stock that, should it pay off, could incur some decent capital gains taxes. Never thought I'd be rooting FOR more taxes...

[ard]

Crazy, right?

Insane times.


Hope all are well!

[Maruzo]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFoQj8C6/

[EODguy]

Why are liberals angered so easily and why do they act so insane?
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The quick and dirty answer is that they aren’t. Someone who follows liberal values is generally pretty hard to anger and quite level headed kind of by definition. The average person who calls themselves a liberal at this point, however, don’t tend to hold any liberal values. In fact, they tend to be directly opposed to those very same values.

If you look at the very far left, there’s an overwhelming totalitarian value system there. Everyone has to agree with them because they’re morally “right” and “good” and to disagree makes you evil. If you study their behaviour, they’re not even really angry at the individual who disagrees with them, however. It’s not even really anger at all, but rather it’s a disgust response. You’re looking at a similar reaction to someone who you just threw a bucket of literal feces over them, because that’s basically how they view it.

This is, for all intents and purposes, not political but religious. As such, you don’t get a reasoned response, you get a defensive response or a disgust response, but not a reasoned one.

For example, let’s take the implied “liberals” you speak of and how they have an insistence upon the concept of equality of outcome, whereas an individual who follows liberal values would be directly opposed to such and desire instead an equality of opportunity.

For the former group, if you suggested different outcomes is actually ideal, you will almost invariably be met with anger and pretty much insanity because the vast bulk of them can’t really explain their position as they don’t understand it, and the few who do, only understand it by excessive amounts of cognitive dissonance.

For the latter group, if you suggested equality of opportunity were a bad idea, you’d instead be met with maybe confusion and an explanation of their position, or to attempt to understand where you’re coming from.

So yeah, basically the question kinda doesn’t work since it’s the wrong question. What you mean is progressives, not liberals. So to answer the question you meant to ask, they treat it as a religion. To question their dogma is unthinkable and abhorrent. It’s not just a matter of being correct, but a matter of morality, and if you even so much as question that they may be wrong, you’re attacking them personally as their very personality and identity is rooted so deeply in their beliefs that you can’t extract one from the other. Any suggestion, no matter how small, that they may be wrong is an outright insult to them because you are saying they, as an individual, are evil, because they “are” their beliefs.

It’s practically impossible, by definition, to maintain that line of reasoning while holding liberal values.


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[Maruzo]

What're you gonna do?

He did win both popular vote and the electoral, so at least there won't be any conspiracy theories about the legitimacy flying about this time around.

For me I'll just ignore politics altogether for 4 years and try to endure it. It's just 4 years, keep reminding myself that.

I do hope the country and its people won't be too badly hurt because of him this time around.

Fingers crossed!

[EODguy]

Considering how he did so much good for the Country during his 1st four years, I'm not sure why people are so dishonest in saying that things were bad under Trump before or better under Biden later. The only things people seem to recall are the bullshit things pushed by those opposed to him or their supporters. If someone was actually an honorable person they wouldn't be able to deny the shit that was so hinky that even Europeans and Arabs were wondering why the reports, charges, etc were even given credence.

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[Maruzo]

Originally Posted by EODguy

Considering how he did so much good for the Country during his 1st four years, I'm not sure why people are so dishonest in saying that things were bad under Trump before or better under Biden later. The only things people seem to recall are the bullshit things pushed by those opposed to him or their supporters. If someone was actually an honorable person they wouldn't be able to deny the shit that was so hinky that even Europeans and Arabs were wondering why the reports, charges, etc were even given credence.

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That's the problem. People who said he did bad aren't dishonest or dishonorable. They genuinely thought he was a threat to our democracy.

Conversely, People who said he did great aren't necessarily one-sided or stubborn. They genuinely thought he was a great leader.

I think people take parts of Trump's speech and actions, the part that they like or dislike and impose upon it their version of who they think Trump really is.

Future historians will have a definitive say about Trump as a president and as a human being.

Regardless, his legacy will compose of many enduring political and economical influences in this country. For better or for worse.

[EODguy]

From the National Archives....




https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov...ishments-2018/




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[Maruzo]

Originally Posted by EODguy

From the National Archives....




https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov...ishments-2018/




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The website does start with " trumpwhitehouse" So it might help if you can find the same endorsement of accomplishments from other sources NOT having any ties with him.

That said I will gladly take the information at its face value and hope that he improves upon all these fine work he's done in the past, and brings us 4 more years of good times. Less division, if possible this time around.

I really hope that after four years, the middle class will climb up in numbers, that they improve on their financial situation, and the inflation goes down in a meaningful way.

p.s. Housing shortage seems to be a long term issue at the moment, so I won't hold him or the next president accountable if it doesn't get better.