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Old 03-23-2020, 08:36 PM
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26 reported cases and the actual count is more likely 10-20 fold.
Yes. Thatís my point.
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Old 03-23-2020, 08:41 PM
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So to follow up on my earlier post..

Iíve seen people on this board give condolences because someoneís significant other was in a fender bender, but I come on here posting that I nearly lost family members to this virus and no one even bats an eye.

No sorry to hear that, or I hope your family recovers. And then everyone wonders why our country has gone to shit!

No one on this board has any REAL sympathy, because if you did there would have been replies, even if you donít like me.

Thatís why weíre in the situation weíre in. Because nobody give a shit anymore.

But, for me.. I pray to Jesus all of you here on this board and your families, friends, or whoever is important to you be healed in the name of Jesus.

I donít care if yíall donít like me. Itís not going to stop me from praying for yíall while weíre going though this VERY hard time.

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Old 03-23-2020, 09:22 PM
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So to follow up on my earlier post..

Iíve seen people on this board give condolences because someoneís significant other was in a fender bender, but I come on here posting that I nearly lost family members to this virus and no one even bats an eye.

No sorry to hear that, or I hope your family recovers. And then everyone wonders why our country has gone to shit!

No one on this board has any REAL sympathy, because if you did there would have been replies, even if you donít like me.

Thatís why weíre in the situation weíre in. Because nobody give a shit anymore.

But, for me.. I pray to Jesus all of you here on this board and your families, friends, or whoever is important to you be healed in the name of Jesus.

I donít care if yíall donít like me. Itís not going to stop me from praying for yíall while weíre going though this VERY hard time.

HAPPY
Happy , I feel you brother. I am reading this thread every 15 minutes. It has turned form a PSA for our forum regarding the Covid-19 virus to a bunch of democratic members back slapping each other on how bad Donald Trump is as a leader and how he is handling the Covid-19 virus. Sad, so sad.

I consider these members friends, we all share a common interest in the E53, but to read their posts it is just division of our forum and division of our country.

I have stayed silent just to keep politics out of this thread but I have sympathy for what you have endured, I am trembling with fear for my own family and trembling with fear for the outcome of others like your daughter and father.

This pandemic is becoming real, much larger than the partisan political views of the previous posts in this thread.

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Old 03-23-2020, 09:29 PM
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RE: X5 Unrelated, but Good Information in Times of Need

I am neither democratic or republican. I am a Christian, and all that matters to me is making sure that I please my father in heaven so that I may live another day. Yesterday is forgotten, today has enough problems, and tomorrow is not promised. That was my only point, that we need to get real right now! The situation is very serious.

Overboost thank you so much for showing support. Some of us never get support, some of us have lived our entire life without support. But, itís by the Holy Spirit and my Savior Jesus Christ that Iíve made it to this point. Right now nothing else matters, all I care is that we all make it through this.
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Old 03-23-2020, 10:15 PM
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I intended to delete the portion about CDC as I saw your reference after I wrote it. That's a oopsie.



Diplomacy is not a tit-for-tat process nor are emotional responses constructive, that's just point and counterpoint and then the session ends with agree to disagree at best. More often than not the relationship is further compromised and tension is increased rather than eased.



IMO the statement from China should have been addressed separately rather than calling calling it the China virus. Leaders should be aware, have more common sense understanding, of the potential of some interpreting the label as racist which divides rather than unites. Or that it will be seen by some as an endorsement that their racism is justified or emboldened to act upon.



White house updates should be without spins, sidebars and emotional outbursts, We need firm dates and numbers to reduce the confusion and fear. The presenters don't even agree. At least start on time. Yesterday it started and hour late. That is inconsiderate and looks like there is no sense of urgency. Not even an apology or explanation at to why the delay. And to think it was the time, or at any time funny, to learn Romney is self quarantined and smile and say "gee that's too bad"? That lack of empathy, though just another instance, is startling. On the other hand, it was the best White house conference so far, a little better than terrible and closer to useful.
NO worries, I figured that out later on about the CDC.

As for diplomacy I can tell you that it most certainly is tit-for-tat as that's how countries basically say what would happen if such and such happened (basic generalization) I have at times over my life while in and out of the military worked at the White House (Clinton) DSSS (G. W. Bush) & Department of State Bureau of Political/Military Affairs (Obama) and my experience is that diplomacy is nothing more than saying "Nice doggy" all while getting a bigger stick.

I know that you didn't mean it that way (surely) that reporters time is more valuable than the leader of the free world and he should drop everything to keep to a schedule....

In the military and most places if you're on time you are late, but even the military has the expression (If the General wears his underwear outside his pants he's not wrong) i.e. If it's not illegal then the one who makes the rules.... makes the rules.

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Happy, I only read from page 7. I am sorry for your loss as this is the first I'm hearing of it. I also have people in my life who got it, but luckily they are turning the corner. I hope you and your family can take solace in your good memories of them.
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Old 03-23-2020, 10:40 PM
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So to follow up on my earlier post..

Iíve seen people on this board give condolences because someoneís significant other was in a fender bender, but I come on here posting that I nearly lost family members to this virus and no one even bats an eye.

No sorry to hear that, or I hope your family recovers. And then everyone wonders why our country has gone to shit!

No one on this board has any REAL sympathy, because if you did there would have been replies, even if you donít like me.

Thatís why weíre in the situation weíre in. Because everyone thinks of themselves solely.

But, for me.. I pray to Jesus all of you here on this board and your families, friends, or whoever is important to you be healed in the name of Jesus.

I donít care if yíall donít like me. Itís not going to stop me from praying for yíall while weíre going though this VERY hard time.

HAPPY
I don't get irritated from a forum post very often. But this one did it. Fixed the above for you BTW. Of course we hope your family gets better, you didn't make clear their status in the original post. I don't know you from Adam and don't know if you want me to ask how they're doing or any other details of their cases. I think one of my first posts in this thread (or another) was that I hope everyone from the Outpost fam (and their relations/friends) stays safe and dodges this thing. The longer it has gone on the clearer that that hope is not going to be realized. It's going to touch EVERYONE. How about you cut people some slack, it hasn't even been 24 hours since your post yet I have recounted it to friends and family at least 3 times and stated I was happy to hear that your father and daughter did not succumb to the virus. Sh*t everyone wants validation and to hear how sorry everyone feels now a days. You ever think maybe no one acknowledged it because it was scary and hits that much closer to home? And thank you for your thoughts and prayers even though I am atheist/agnostic. I appreciate what prayers mean to those with faith (I was raised Catholic).

As to the politics aspect. It's hard to separate the current crisis from the politics. The 2 parties have been at war for awhile now and we are finally in a position where real damage is being done to everyone because of it. Hell the gov't was shutting down once or twice a year for the last few years. Disgusting. I am an independent and most Republicans and Democrats in office are 2 opposing sides of the same coin. They share the same flaws. I'll make fun of Schumer and Pelosi if it makes everyone feel better.

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Old 03-23-2020, 10:56 PM
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Happy, I only read from page 7. I am sorry for your loss as this is the first I'm hearing of it. I also have people in my life who got it, but luckily they are turning the corner. I hope you and your family can take solace in your good memories of them.

I did not have loss, but VERY close. However, it changed me permanently seeing my loved ones near death.

I will never forget the healing they received, it was God himself whom allowed them to live.

The Bible says according to Jesus; ďI am the way, the truth, and the life, No one will enter the kingdom of heaven, unless through the the sonĒ.

The Father, nor the Son, nor the Holy Spirit, took a member of my family. However, to me personally, I cannot become complacent. This is not a time for in lack of a better term BSín.

My family members were spared, but only because of their love for Jesus.

Trust me, I seen it with my own eyes. These times are no coincidence, we had it coming, myself included.

We all got a bit to comfortable, but....

Itís not too late we can change.

People need to realize life is a gift! Hug your Wife, your Son, your Daughter, your Mother, your Father! Whomever is important to you.

You never know if itís going to be your last chance!

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Notice that Trump's support group takes the stage and has to stand looking at the press silently so Trump can make an entrance. Certainly they didn't come out without direction and they wouldn't come out if Trump wasn't already there. They know about the time for the press conferences and they never start on time.
Just remember that those people are there because they work for POTUS and even in everyday life you would wait for the boss to make his statement and not start before them. It was this way under Obama, Bush, Clinton. Everyone has their own opinion on what is said, done or implied but it should make everyone pause and wonder if they're upset more along party lines when upset over the exact same format that has been done for all the previous administrations regardless of party.

There are plenty of things to be unhappy about but we all should make sure it's substantive and not a perception that we make into a reality.

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Crystal, donít bust my balls because we donít see eye to eye.

I never pointed my message towards you in any way.
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