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Old 12-26-2012, 12:54 PM
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I will keep my guns thank you.

Lets figure out if how to get our country under control again, or maybe how to quit spending like drunken sailors. Or lets talk about term limits that would be interesting. We already have gun control laws in effect...or maybe we could take Chicago's approach. They only have shootings every few hours out there.
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I will keep my guns thank you.

Lets figure out if how to get our country under control again, or maybe how to quit spending like drunken sailors. Or lets talk about term limits that would be interesting. We already have gun control laws in effect...or maybe we could take Chicago's approach. They only have shootings every few hours out there.
And THIS is why we have issues today. This whole "oh let's deflect to something else and everything is great, all laws are working" mentality is why we need additional regulation on the federal level because it clearly isn't going to happen on the local level
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I am taking the same approach the government has and will continue to do. We don't have a problem, you do. If you don't like the current laws, move. The Constitution and Bill of Rights are their for a reason. That's why they call if the Bill of Rights. I have the right to bear arms just like you have the right to freedom of speech.

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What is your point? This just reads like some long ramble
Thread is about stances on gun control.

The essay at the link pretty much tells it as it is for me.

Did you read it?
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Old 12-26-2012, 03:39 PM
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To be clear, I don't own a gun at this moment because it is too much liability to me.
I don't own a dog for a same reason.

I would get a gun, if different situations arise say I move to very isolated area, or go camping in area where bears frequent, etc. I would purchase a proper gun safe, and follow protocols. I just have no reason to own one at where I am.
Not because I am against gun ownership for qualified individuals.

If anyone ask me some of the people I know who own guns will always make right choices with the firearms, "I would say hell no."
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I normally don't get involved in these discussions, but I think some people take too much from our media and lawmakers. So which one of these is an "assault weapon"?



Most folks will answer the one on the bottom. My question is why??

Hate to break this to ya, but they are the exact same firearm; are the same length, utilize the same ammunition, and both have detachable magazines. So is it because the one on the bottom is all blacked out, has a bunch of additional doo-dads attached to it and generally scares us that makes it an assault weapon?

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Nobody Is trying to take all guns away but it's high time we ban assault weapons and large scale ammunition. There is no logical reason for someone to have it. Period
So that would mean the bottom choice by most peoples (and the media/lawmakers) definition. But by my example I could just go to my local sporting goods store and purchase the top rifle and do the same amount of damage. Where is the line drawn?
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And THIS is why we have issues today. This whole "oh let's deflect to something else and everything is great, all laws are working" mentality is why we need additional regulation on the federal level because it clearly isn't going to happen on the local level
Gun control is much more of a deflection than what you are claiming.

Its a symptom of the whole entitlement mentality going on today.

"Wahhh some crazy went out and killed a lot of people. Govt, protect me by banning icky guns!"

Some of us prefer to have the capability to be able to do something about it should we find ourselves in such an unfortunate situation.

Some of us see things as they are. Firearms are simply inanimate tools. How can banning an inanimate object stop someone from doing something crazy?

Let me ask you, If someone handed you a gun, would it somehow make you want to go out and shoot a whole bunch of people?

If it doesnt, shame on you for thinking the rest of us law abiding owners are somehow so morally bankrupt and deficient as to be directed to such an act by an inanimate object!

And if you somehow do tend to think of shooting people when holding a gun, I'm sorry but you are not one to discussing about its legislation in the first place.

You want it banned for the masses and have police with guns be there to take care of things?

First, they are only a general deterrent. They are not there to guarantee the safety of each citizen, they are there to help handle things we the people cannot handle on our own.

Second, how can you morally condone someone with a deadly gun defending you when you think guns are so horrible and evil in the first place?

Is your own life worth defending?

If so, ultimately, who's responsibility is it to defend it?

Given an overwhelming threat against your own life, like yourself against many, someone physically more powerful than you, or one with a weapon, what would you choose to defend yourself with?
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:26 PM
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Guns.. Is this the real issue? No I do not believe so. The real issue is we live in a politically correct society and when somebody gets their feelings hurt they want to go shoot up the place. This new generation is so sensitive, they get picked on or "bullied" in school then they go home get the daddy's legal gun take it to school and kill a bunch of people. We need to get back to disciplining our children and teaching them to stand up for themselves. Not everyone can be a winner, everybody loses sometime. Also we need to get "big government" out of what local government is paid to do.
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I will keep mine thank you very much.. for all those opposing I hope you have some way of defending yourself when you need it. If some lunatic want it bad enough you really think they won't find a way to get a gun even through a ban? You swear nobody got any alcohol during prohibition.
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