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The mankind has written history for last few millenia - and this has been always the same, a well armed civilian population is a clear threat to the authorities, and to itself... that is why many warlords would disarm the population... Besides, if the weapons can do good, why are we so worried about the Iran's test of a missile? after all, they say that the bad guys are us, and they are the good guys... lol... everything is in the eye of a beholder... Last edited by TerminatorX5; 01-02-2013 at 11:58 PM. Reason: spelling |
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either the law trumps everything, or everything trumps the law... |
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Here is my philosophy. There are lots of good people who have strongly held beliefs on the gun issue, on each side. Call it 25% each way. They aren't likely to change their minds. That's their right. Then there are the 50% of the population who are in the middle. They are the ones who will eventually change the laws. Might take a long time. But it will be worth it, if it happens. Because the past 20 years don't constitute a good run, in terms of acceptable collateral damage. Again, IMO.
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nothing will change until the sh!t hits home... look at the Sandy issue with the outgoing congress - the Republican Governor and the Republican Congressmen revolted against their own speaker when the Sandy relief vote did not come to the floor for the ENTITLEMENTS to their constituents!!! for god sake, the republicans always kept saying, that folks need to be insured (insurance, is another form of socilaism, when the risk of few is born by many)... until it hit THEIR home...
Same goes with abortions - life is precious, and any pregnancy must be seen to the birth of a baby... until his own daughter is pregnant from some biker who is long gone... them an abortion is in order... it is so easy to regulate other people's lives... As a matter of fact, with the abortions - every baby deserve to be born, so the rights of an unborn child are PROTECTED... the moment the baby is born, the same people deny the welfare benefits to the baby - where are the parents who brought the kid into the life, lets make them pay for the baby... this land is full of paradoxes... but i am flying off on a tangent here... |
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Who said anything about vigilantes? Who said anything about not preserving the right to a fair trial?
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Do they cite the population difference between US and other countries? Percentages can be used very effectively in manipulating a desired outcome.
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by the same argument, we should be able to buy bazookas - why not?... it can be born on a person... while i am personally for the far extreme, i am totally ok with banning the MAN-HUNTING weapons, and i am ok to let people keep their pistols, revolvers, whatnot... I am for a compromise, i don't think going too far in any direction is good... And those who keep it must take the "drivers" test, to get a license to have the weapon - at least they should be able to load/unload the weapon, and shoot in the direction of a target... |
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Still feeling good about that 20 year run?
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That's like asking if Britain is happy about their reduction in violent crimes. Accidental death rate for children falls – The Chart - CNN.com Blogs Teen Homicide, Suicide, and Firearm Deaths | Child Trends Databank "Trends in firearm-related deaths (homicides and suicides, as well as deaths from unintended injuries) have followed a similar pattern for teens ages 15 to 19, with rates declining dramatically during the late 1990s, from 24.5 per 100,000 in 1995, to 13.1 per 100,000 in 2000. As with the homicide rate, the firearm-related death rate fluctuated slightly between 2000 and 2006, before decreasing to 10.6 deaths per 100,000 in 2010, the lowest rate on record." (Figure 1) Not to mention how many of these issues are GANG related! I'm too tired to go back and quote more...every reader can decide if we've got this massive issue today or not. And if so, is it with gangs or little Johnny across the street.
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That would mean that the US now has only six times the firearm related childhood death rate as the nearest other 26 industrialized countries, combined. And to be clear, you don't think this is an issue, but you will leave it to readers to decide for themselves or not. OK.
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