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Old 12-08-2020, 04:01 PM
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Where is Karma... White house surrounded by MPs with two black eyes walking to the helicopter for the last time.
You had me with you until Pelosi. I want to see HER hit with the frying pan. Along with Schumer, Mcconnel, John Cornyn, and Lindsay Graham. Probably a bunch of others too but I don't know their "evil" doings as they aren't in the press.
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Old 12-08-2020, 04:13 PM
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You had me with you until Pelosi. I want to see HER hit with the frying pan. Along with Schumer, Mcconnel, John Cornyn, and Lindsay Graham. Probably a bunch of others too but I don't know their "evil" doings as they aren't in the press.
Yes, lots of Karma being accumulated for others. There's a lot pending in Trumps administration and both sides of the aisle and quite a few governors. Better choice if it was Melania and is walking in front of him to the helicopter and he is carrying her purse or she gets on a separate helicopter?
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Yes, lots of Karma being accumulated for others. There's a lot pending in Trumps administration and both sides of the aisle and quite a few governors. Better choice if it was Melania and is walking in front of him to the helicopter and he is carrying her purse or she gets on a separate helicopter?
Absolutely better! I'd die laughing.
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Absolutely better! I'd die laughing.
Is it better for the kids if super rich people like trump marries his second and third wife while retaining all the exes in the same family so all the wives raise the kids together?

I think it worked in the past because of the obvious benefits.

Don’t know why it stopped working or that it got voted off.

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Is it better for the kids if super rich people like trump marries his second and third wife while retaining all the exes in the same family so all the wives raise the kids together?

I think it worked in the past because of the obvious benefits.

Don’t know why it stopped working or that it got voted off.

All men’s dream, really.
Other than the marriages and the rich I think that was the sixties.
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Will Biden help our current situation? I’m hoping he will. His priority is very different from Trump’s own. I think he will help tremendously.
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Joe Biden was not my first choice, nor many other people’s first choice, as the Democrat candidate. But I voted for Biden in an effort to prevent Donald Trump from further consolidating his agenda, which I believe was a strategically sound position. Also, this is ultimately what the majority of Bernie Sanders supporters did, just as they did in 2016 and voted for the Democrat candidate. I think a slim majority of voting Americans believe that we will have a better chance of improving our country and the world, than four more years of Donald Trump.

I was not suckered by the Trump campaign's strategy proclaiming that Trump was the so-called “law and order” president. That was a false premise, and just a marketing strategy to play upon the fears of some members of the public, specifically some white people, completely blowing out of proportion and exaggerating the violence that has been happening in some urban centers. Sensible people saw through that propaganda to realize that Trump has consciously exasperated the situation in his hopes to gain politically. Most Americans can discern the difference between the justification for the peaceful protests versus the small group of leftwing AND rightwing agitators that instigate the criminal violent acts of property looting and destruction.

I also do not see Biden’s choice of Kamala Harris as his VP running mate as some sort of threat that she will ultimately lean towards a move to socialism, let alone Marxism. I believe that fear is unjustified and is blatantly false. She is a strong, accomplished woman who brings solid credentials as a strong prosecutor upholding the law, which appeals to many people who consider themselves centrists or right-of-center politically. Of course, part of the reason for her selection was to appease the African American voters who desperately wanted a woman of color to be on this ticket. But she is far from a token and in IMHO, certainly capable of taking over from Joe Biden if the needs arise, before his term is over.

Some of my Republican friends asked me what Joe Biden has accomplished over the many years he has been in public office. Aside from any bills that he was associated with, the answer that I gave to that question, (that is especially important today), is that he is one of the few current, seasoned politicians who has a solid track record of continually crossing over the aisle, attempting and seeking bipartisan cooperation and negotiating compromises between the different sides in order to accomplish actual legislation that did, (and can and will), pass with sufficient votes. For far too long, we have been rightfully frustrated and have criticizing the U.S. Congress for not being able to get anything done. I believe that Biden and his administration, will strive to work with Republicans to find common ground on many important issues that the American public wants to see real action taken on and not just verbal bluster.

In addition, I am confident that Biden will be a very competent president, who will not propose or make dramatic changes via Executive Order, that goes against what the majority of Americans want. If he tries to, I do not see Congress or the U.S. Supreme Court allowing it to stand and therefore preventing him from doing anything too extreme. He will stabilize our country and make corrections on the path that we were on prior to the arrival of Donald Trump. That will satisfy the financial markets, our allies and most Americans who are exhausted by Trump’s relentless assault on truth and the institutions of democracy, as well has his unhinged provocations and abuse of power.

I for one, saw this presidential election as a referendum by Americans as to whether or not they believe in our collective historical national values of leaders of the free world, upholding human decency, working for the collective and common good, fight for promoting every citizens potential, and ultimately, a desire to return to more fundamental democratic ideals that our country was founded on that we have strayed from. So therefore, I believe that aside from the usual and expected minor missteps, Joe Biden will be a far superior and more effective president than Donald Trump, working to achieve those goals.

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He can’t even bring himself to properly convince the public to use a face mask, much less social distance or avoid large gatherings.
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I think that's why Biden is asking the American public to mask up for 100 days. Give the distribution channel time to set up and distribute the vaccine in time to put this virus out of commission.
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We all have seen this year how a number of vocal people on the right are enraged at any suggestion that their actions should take other people’s welfare into account. This rage is sometimes portrayed as love of freedom. But these same people who insist on the right to pollute are notably unbothered by, say, federal agents tear-gassing peaceful protesters. What they call “freedom” is actually the absence of responsibility. Rational policy in a virus pandemic, however, is all about taking responsibility. The main reason you shouldn’t go to a bar and should wear a mask isn’t just for self-protection, although that’s part of it; the point is that congregating in noisy, crowded spaces or exhaling aerosol droplets into shared air where you are exposed to it for a reasonable period of time, puts other people at risk. I do not believe that wearing a mask is the sole solution to reducing the virus pandemic, but it is a significant contributing factor, along with social distancing and frequent hand washing, let alone avoiding congregating with many folks indoors. These precautions should be very clear to everyone by now.

It is also quite clear now that Republicans have sacralized selfishness, regardless that it has been hurting their own political prospects, by insisting on the right to act selfishly even when it puts others at risk. Their idea of freedom seems to be freedom to care only about themselves abandoning any pretense of caring for their neighbors. Not wanting to wear a mask at this time seems to be a mixture of selfishness, emotional immaturity and inability to deal with a short period of discomfort for a temporary and minor inconvenience of mask wearing.

I understand and agree that wearing a face mask can be a real PITA!. I hate how my reading glasses usually fog up when I am wearing a face mask, requiring that I frequently remove them. But I still wear the damn thing!
Especially now, since we know that wearing a mask is one of the basic things that appears to have the most meaningful effect of reducing the spread of the airborne COVID-19 virus particles.

So at this point, I just may have a tee shirt made with the slogan;
"Wearing a mask is not a political statement - it's an IQ test."

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Because he's barely more of a money grubbing idiot than most of our elected officials. The rest of them just go out of their way to hide it. So out of touch with reality and the majority of the American populous that someone like Trump can actually be elected. It's a reflection of the system itself.

Please enumerate the damages that Trump has done. I very much want to know because as far as I can tell... aside from covid, nothing is that different. And the few things that are, will be reversed by Biden/Harris (Paris climate accord, trade, etc). Not that those things help the average US citizen in any way.

bcredliner is right. Major changes need to take place, campaign reform, term limits, lobbying, Citizen's United, etc. Until that happens, our government is not acting in our best interest. Whether they are on the blue side of the aisle, or the red. 250 years is a good run for a republic. The people have lost their self reliance and sense of pride in individual responsibility.
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I agree that there is rot in both political parties and that major reforms need to be made, especially for national fair and uniform voting system in every state; basic political campaign reform; term limits for Senators, Representative, and Supreme Court Justices, lobbying regulations, etc...

Regarding Donald Trump, I believe that he has never had a coherent vision of what the Presidency was intended to be by our Founding Fathers. When an egomaniac real estate grifter becomes president, the first never to have served either in the military or public office, you get a miserable reduction in the competence and prestige of the office.

After four years, it is quite apparent that this president is the most inappropriate, unfit and ridiculous leader we've ever elected. He is a mafia-style Brutus ignoramus that, given his narcissistic personality disorder and pathological lying, along with his deep insecurities, should never have been allowed to exploit the powers of the presidency...for his own narrow, and capricious, self-interests. Remember that one of Donald Trump 2016 campaign promises included to “drain the swamp”, but he then proceeded to install various lobbyists, corporate plunderers and other unqualified people with various vested interests, into key cabinet and agency positions. His administration has been a revolving door, where by this year anyone with any real competence had left the Trump administration and the remainders and/or replacements are all junior varsity political hacks and compliant sycophants, including his Chief of Staff, Press Secretary and Secretary of State who are all totally incompetent.

Anyone who has been paying attention can see and understand that Trump functions as though he is acting as the CEO of this country, which he thinks is his private company. His narcissism prevents him from seeing anything as more important than himself. In his official capacity, Trump acts the part of a sleazy, ingenuine populist; he proposes simple-minded solutions that do not work, to problems that he does not understand. He always acts with the goals of pandering to his political base’s prejudices and in his personal financial interests of those of his family members and his corporate donors. In reality, Mr. Trump does not function as President of the United States, he functions as the President of his minority political faction. Donors get it; giving Trump money generates lucrative perks and benefits. Trump buys rich friends via “deregulation”, i.e. his negating environmental protections to allow industries to dump toxins saves industry more money than it cost them to buy Trump’s affections. Thinking of Trump’s administration as a pay-to-play influence peddling racket operated by a career grifter makes more sense than calling Trump a President.

Another question you may want to ask is what actual Trump campaign promises were met...
Did his bring back manufacturing jobs? No. Did he save the coal industry? No. Did he repeal and replace Obamacare with a better and less expensive healthcare plan? No. Did he build a wall along our entire southern border, that Mexico would pay for? No. Did he solve our illegal immigration problem at our southern border? No. What he did do was fill almost 2/3’s of the Federal judiciary with conservative judges sympathetic to the religious right. His biggest act was the deficit-busting tax cut, that was not really Trump’s idea, but that of the Republican congress, for the benefit of their corporate “constituents” and campaign finance patrons.

Finally, one of the most frightening aspects of Trump's presidency has been the way he has normalized unenlightened self-interest as an expression of patriotism and national pride. For many folks, his platform of "America First" has become shorthand for "Me First," and the idea that American exceptionalism is predicated not on communal values but the myopic selfishness of individuals. We see that Trump is a nihilist. Even worse, he is the personification of all would-be dictators who merge the office being held with one's own "being"; i.e., Trump doesn't represent the people of the United States, he is the avatar of "The People," or approximately 47% of the body politic who have bought into the “cult of Trump”.

I can hardly wait for Trump to vacate the White House, if necessary, being frog-walked out by the Secret Service and FBI…

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Regarding Donald Trump, I believe that he has never had a coherent vision of what the Presidency was intended to be by our Founding Fathers. When an egomaniac real estate grifter becomes president, the first never to have served either in the military or public office, you get a miserable reduction in the competence and prestige of the office.
Wow, he has been a breath of FRESH AIR for America. We have not had a president since Regan that wanted to put America first.

Who says that you have to be part of the elite class to run for any office. Everyone in DC works for us..."WE THE PEOPLE" not "US THE Gov't"

Never before have I seen such a narcissistic President than the "OBAMANATION"

He created so much division in American, who was he? A community agitator! Foreign Socialist, Communist/Marxist?

A Post Turtle......Was put up in a high position, has no idea how he got there, has no idea how to get down...but the Million dollar questions is who in the F!@#ing dumb A$$ that put him up there. This is the story for 90% of DC.

Things with come into better focus as the largest STING in the US history concludes and people go to jail and American continues down the path to becoming "GREAT AGAIN!"

Stop watching the lap dog media as they try and spin their fake narrative to cover for the Left. Notice how they are scrambling to get the sheep to believe that there was not election fraud?

Who the F!@# are they to call it? Our US Constitution is clear cut how this will be handled.

It will go to SCOTUS and justice will be served!!

Once this is done the Executive Order on Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election will come into light

Read the order and you will understand why the left and the media are really scared..doing everything they can now not to be exposed

https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...ates-election/


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