Originally Posted by bcredliner

On Friday my brother-in-law died of the virus. He had been very carefully following the shelter in place and guidelines. My sister took him to the hospital for an unrelated problem where he was tested because he had a fever. Several days later the hospital called to tell him he tested positive. A few days later he started having breathing problems. He was taken by ambulance to the hospital. Three days later he was under hospice care. During the hospital stay and hospice she wasn't no allowed to be with him. My sister is sheltered in place until she can be tested today. It is very likely she will test positive. She is all alone with her grief and anxiety in their home of 57 years. Her son lives nearby. He can't hold her or enter the house.

The funeral is limited to 10 people, direct family only. Funeral must be at the grave site only. Jim was one of my mentors, he was wise, inspirational and had a wonderful dry sense of humor, A 6 foot 3 big strong in ever way man. She plans to have a celebration of life in the summer if the virus allows it.

Somewhere, someone infected him. This is what happens when individuals decide their wants or needs are more important than others, that their liberty entitles then to infringe on the liberty of others. Over 60 percent of the population believe it is too soon to open the country which likely means at least 60 percent have been able to find a way to adhere to the guidelines.

As one person said here ---you know where I can stick my opinions. You can all stick your opinions and selfish or twisted view of your rights or liberty over that of others, or you have to work regardless of the consequences to others--and, of course, up your ass where the sun don't shine. Especially those that tell me I am not listening to their point of view, try to make it sound like I am the only one that does not share their opinions or I have a screw loose.

I honestly hope no one else anywhere experiences what my sister is. Based just the few here it is certain they will.

Originally Posted by zonefive

So someone infected him who wasn't abiding by social distancing or other government mandates? How do you know this?

You don't. You are not thinking clearly.

Originally Posted by zonefive

That's right. Permanently ban all contact sports because masks aren't worn and if they are, they are likely to come off. Permanently close all bars and restaurants because you can't eat or drink without a mask on. Etc etc.

Safety first people!

May I suggest an alternative: if you don't feel comfortable going outside without a mask on, or without other people having masks on, don't go outside. Stay inside your house.

Originally Posted by zonefive

That's right. Permanently ban all contact sports because masks aren't worn and if they are, they are likely to come off. Permanently close all bars and restaurants because you can't eat or drink without a mask on. Etc etc.

Safety first people!

May I suggest an alternative: if you don't feel comfortable going outside without a mask on, or without other people having masks on, don't go outside. Stay inside your house.

Originally Posted by zonefive

That's right. Permanently ban all contact sports because masks aren't worn and if they are, they are likely to come off. Permanently close all bars and restaurants because you can't eat or drink without a mask on. Etc etc.

Safety first people!

May I suggest an alternative: if you don't feel comfortable going outside without a mask on, or without other people having masks on, don't go outside. Stay inside your house.

Originally Posted by bcredliner

None of the experts, which you are obviously not one, have suggested permanently banning anything.

What they are recommending, which I am sure you will ignore, is to have a plan for reopening that closely monitors the impact of each stage of reopening. This is so any increase in infections is quickly known. If infections increase to rescind a stage or stages, adjust the plan, and cease the openings until after 14 days of consistent decline in infections. Your lack of concern and respect for other up there with the worst of narcissistic behavior.

There will be new normals. As long as the virus cannot be adequately treated, there is a no vaccine, and a minority ignore the guidelines please buy season tickets to the games.

It is obvious too informed adults that there will be many like you that either think they know more than the experts or don't care what happens to others and will do whatever they want. That makes it a sure thing it will become a permanent new normal. The same is true if patrons of public places if they aren't intelligent enough to get with the program.