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Old 04-23-2020, 06:38 PM
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Old 04-23-2020, 01:29 PM
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A measured opening has been mentioned many times. Here in Texas reopenings are starting but certainly not "willy nilly." Masks are required in public spaces still. No medical facility has been overwhelmed, and with the moritorium on elective procedures, hospitals have lost a lot of income. Health care workers hours are being cut, doctors are taking pay cuts while still covering more patients. Hospitals who aren't well capitalized are talking about shuttering. Instead of not overwhelming the system, we are starving it. We have a privatized health care system, for better or worse. It needs patients of all types to survive.

I think those who want lock downs to continue are not looking at it from the perspective of the unemployed or the business owner who is likely going to have to shutter. Forget the economic costs, which are going to be huge, how many lives are going to be lost to other causes. I think the last statistic I saw was that for every percentage point unemployment rises, 40,000 people die. That's crazy to think of the longer this thing goes.

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[QUOTE=EODguy;1182039]Well to be honest it's only 6" but most girls don't like it that thick

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Seriously now.

Are you implying someone has created a plan to manage this? Or is the plan to rely on every business to figure out their own plan? If that’s the case has anyone mandated that businesses are expected to have a plan when they open? Or assume that they would?
Can a barber have 10 customers inside the shop waiting their turn? Can the bus be filled to capacity? Reopening guidelines are either not created or not published. Burying your head in the sand is not a plan.

The plan of not having a plan is not a good plan.

As Mark Twain put it. It’s not wrong doing the right thing.
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As Mark Twain put it. It’s not wrong doing the right thing.
I prefer to quote the Constitution or the Founding Fathers, but nothing says you have to go to a place that has people NOT social distancing...

As for me, I know that freedom isn't free. Because I paid for it.

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I prefer to quote the Constitution or the Founding Fathers, but nothing says you have to go to a place that has people NOT social distancing...

As for me, I know that freedom isn't free. Because I paid for it.

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I prefer to quote the Constitution or the Founding Fathers, but nothing says you have to go to a place that has people NOT social distancing...
Couldn't agree more. If you are scared, then stay home.

Until someone tells me how my mortgage and bills will be paid by fairies or pixie dust then get out of the way and let me earn a living.
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Seriously now.

Are you implying someone has created a plan to manage this? Or is the plan to rely on every business to figure out their own plan? If that’s the case has anyone mandated that businesses are expected to have a plan when they open? Or assume that they would?
Can a barber have 10 customers inside the shop waiting their turn? Can the bus be filled to capacity? Reopening guidelines are either not created or not published. Burying your head in the sand is not a plan.

The plan of not having a plan is not a good plan.

As Mark Twain put it. It’s not wrong doing the right thing.
Every locality is supposed to come up with their own plans. Ours has been doing a great job and communicating in a very clear matter of fact way. All of those things you mentioned have been mentioned by our mayor and county judge for how to proceed.

Are you in Canada as your profile states? Perhaps things are quite different there.

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There is no verification for any percent of increase of deaths based on one percent increase of unemployment. The 40,000 deaths per increase of one per of unemployment originated from the movie 'The Big Short'.
There is plenty of correlation data available for unemployment vs mortality. The 40,000 is based off a study from the 70's I think. But even if that's wildly overestimated, your belief that every life should be saved is at odds with any increase.

People are going to die. They die every day. As Elizabeth Warren is dealing with the loss of her brother, we all deal with the loss of loved ones. Whether it be from a virus, old age, car accident, etc. At the average age of members here I'd bet most, if not all of us, have lost loved ones.
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Every locality is supposed to come up with their own plans. Ours has been doing a great job and communicating in a very clear matter of fact way. All of those things you mentioned have been mentioned by our mayor and county judge for how to proceed.

Are you in Canada as your profile states? Perhaps things are quite different there.



There is plenty of correlation data available for unemployment vs mortality. The 40,000 is based off a study from the 70's I think. But even if that's wildly overestimated, your belief that every life should be saved is at odds with any increase.

People are going to die. They die every day. As Elizabeth Warren is dealing with the loss of her brother, we all deal with the loss of loved ones. Whether it be from a virus, old age, car accident, etc. At the average age of members here I'd bet most, if not all of us, have lost loved ones.
It's not about people die everyday so what's the big deal. It's that our carelessness can be directly responsible for a death(s) much the same if one intentionally ran their car through a crowd.
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