RE: X5 Unrelated, but Good Information in Times of Need - Page 66

Maruzo · #1 07-07-2020, 01:11 PM

A good plan will work even better if the messaging from the top is consistent. The reason why seatbelt and helmet campaigns are successful is because the message was consistent. The public received the same message over and over again and it became a defacto truth: wearing seatbelts / helmet saves lives.

We need to use the same strategy with social distancing and mask wearing.

Push it on the national level and be consistent with the message.

I think Biden can do that. Follow the logical route. Even with his reduced mental state. He’s a compassionate person in his core.

bcredliner · #2 07-07-2020, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maruzo

A good plan will work even better if the messaging from the top is consistent. The reason why seatbelt and helmet campaigns are successful is because the message was consistent. The public received the same message over and over again and it became a defacto truth: wearing seatbelts / helmet saves lives.

We need to use the same strategy with social distancing and mask wearing.

Push it on the national level and be consistent with the message.

I think Biden can do that. Follow the logical route. Even with his reduced mental state. He’s a compassionate person in his core.

Seat belts are a good example of a single message. I understand your point.
Taking it a step further, In Texas the single message is "click it or ticket". The effort had to ultimately include a traffic violation for not wearing one. It was for those that needed to be protected from themselves. I see no indication we are a country that will broadly adopt a single message on their own. And COVID 19 is not something that only puts the nonconformist at risk.

You can't fix stupid but stupid understands if they don't conform it will hurt their pocketbook or freedom. If we want to push it past the entanglement of politics at least make the first violation a warning, the second $250 fine and the third $1000 and/or 10 days in jail. Even then it is with a very questionable assumption that law enforcement will take time away from other duties to ticket anyone, if that is enough or the punishment is reasonable for the crime.

Seems like not wearing a mask is endangering the public. Depending on the circumstances of public intoxication there can be an add on of endangering the public. Public intoxication is a minimum of 72 hours in jail plus a fine. Endangering the public is a felony. The penalty is up to a $10,000 fine and 10 years in jail. Not saying the punishment for not wearing a mask should be the same it's only for perspective. But if one is not wearing a mask they could be tested and quarantined until the results come back. If they test positive there could be a significant fine and time in jail.

Maruzo · #3 07-07-2020, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bcredliner

Seat belts are a good example of a single message. I understand your point.
Taking it a step further, In Texas the single message is "click it or ticket". The effort had to ultimately include a traffic violation for not wearing one. It was for those that needed to be protected from themselves. I see no indication we are a country that will broadly adopt a single message on their own. And COVID 19 is not something that only puts the nonconformist at risk.

You can't fix stupid but stupid understands if they don't conform it will hurt their pocketbook or freedom. If we want to push it past the entanglement of politics at least make the first violation a warning, the second $250 fine and the third $1000 and/or 10 days in jail. Even then it is with a very questionable assumption that law enforcement will take time away from other duties to ticket anyone, if that is enough or the punishment is reasonable for the crime.

Seems like not wearing a mask is endangering the public. Depending on the circumstances of public intoxication there can be an add on of endangering the public. Public intoxication is a minimum of 72 hours in jail plus a fine. Endangering the public is a felony. The penalty is up to a $10,000 fine and 10 years in jail. Not saying the punishment for not wearing a mask should be the same it's only for perspective. But if one is not wearing a mask they could be tested and quarantined until the results come back. If they test positive there could be a significant fine and time in jail.

The logic makes sense. And you've lay out the right precedent for implementing this policy. Great job BC!

This is the right time to enforce the mask and social distance requirements. I would say we're pretty late in this game, but the strategy will work if it's done right and everybody follows it right away.

We've shown that the guidelines can be effective. California was on a downward slope in the low 1,000s daily positive cases before the ease of restriction were to take place.

Then we went the wrong way and we're now seeing 4,000 and more each day.

bcredliner · #4 07-08-2020, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Maruzo

The logic makes sense. And you've lay out the right precedent for implementing this policy. Great job BC!

This is the right time to enforce the mask and social distance requirements. I would say we're pretty late in this game, but the strategy will work if it's done right and everybody follows it right away.

We've shown that the guidelines can be effective. California was on a downward slope in the low 1,000s daily positive cases before the ease of restriction were to take place.

Then we went the wrong way and we're now seeing 4,000 and more each day.

Texas opened the day or day after Trump said we need to open the country, a suck up move. We made national news then and are now. We met none of the criteria for the CDC opening plan. Infections were still climbing. The opening was expedited with no pauses to see what happens checkpoints.

Now we are setting a new infection record everyday. After a week or more of that, the Governor finally declared all Texans must wear masks at some level of cases in each county. But he hasn't closed any of the primary infection spots like bars. More people wearing masks should slow the rate of increases but I think we are a long way from any downturn and certainly not to level the CDC recommends to even start an opening plan.

Fight or die in Texas has nothing to do with defeating the virus. It means fight anyone that sounds like they might be telling me what to do or wants any level of gun control. I will be surprised if I don't see many more confederate flags flying behind lifted diesel pickup trucks with huge tires, gun racks, a don't tread on me, out of my cold dead hands and Trump bumper stickers, almost always speeding, tailgating, smoking like a tire fire and pedal to the metal from each traffic light. In Texas, when you buy a pickup truck one of the dealer installed accessories is a Redneck kit with the lift kit, tires and all the stickers already applied. They won't be wearing masks and neither will their friends or family.

Maruzo · #5 07-07-2020, 09:18 PM

https://apple.news/A18-0gm2gSI6KQpTvL7IvOw

A story of how a popular burger is made from start to finish in the pandemic times.

Maruzo · #6 07-09-2020, 01:03 PM

It would be hilarious to see MAGA/ Trump stickers on a Prius and a Biden/ Bernie sticker on a Magnum XL truck.

Maruzo · #7 07-12-2020, 11:28 PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53378439

He finally puts on a mask.

I hope this encourages the naysayers or his fan base to put theirs on as well.

We're 7 months in, 3.37 millions infected, 137,000 dead.

He finally wised up and did the right thing.

I am going to look on the bright side and pray that this is a positive step towards a gradual reduction in covid infection.

It's still not too late to turn this thing around. Even if it means the orange bang gets re-elected.

bcredliner · #8 07-13-2020, 05:34 PM

I don't expect to see him in a mask again.

Just watched a few minutes of his press conference chastising 'defunding' the police, that it is all democratic officials behind it. He said how terrible the shootings have increased even though re-distribution of police funds to lesson the load on police has yet to happen.

Noted that there were several babies in the room. No one was wearing a mask. And, he is still saying the increase in cases is due to increase in testing.

Trump will never back off of his position the virus is under control. That would mean he was admitting he is wrong. If he does that then he is admitting responsibility for deaths that should not have happened. He doesn't admit he is wrong about anything. He will continue to double down hoping the Covid 19 cases will drop or enough folks will believe him so it doesn't become more of an election issue.

I feel sure some school districts in areas where virus cases are above 5% and climbing will open schools. The pandemic is still as, or more political than ever.

ard · #9 07-16-2020, 05:34 PM

Trump is a psychopath.

Mary Trumps book sold 950,000 **IN THE FIRST DAY**

Think of this...any normal human being, sitting in the oval office, who was as utterly unprepared and incapable of doing the job as Trump, would collapse under the pressure.

Only a psychopathic narcissist, who cares not one whit about anyone other than himself, could survive.

MAGA my ass.

Maruzo · #10 07-16-2020, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ard

Trump is a psychopath.

Mary Trumps book sold 950,000 **IN THE FIRST DAY**

Think of this...any normal human being, sitting in the oval office, who was as utterly unprepared and incapable of doing the job as Trump, would collapse under the pressure.

Only a psychopathic narcissist, who cares not one whit about anyone other than himself could survive.

MAGA my ass.

I thought he's more than a narcissist. His complete lack of compassion and his need to garner as much spot light and attention as he can, whether deserved or not, makes him a complicated narcissist doubling as a psychopath.

I think he isn't caving into the pressure because he doesn't think he's done anything wrong. As he's said publicly over and over again. He takes no responsibility for any of our country's plight, and the blame is with everyone else except him.

He's a short-sighted, failed business man who values the stock market more than the health and safety of his citizen. The ones he sworn an oath to protect.

He remembers every single slight and he makes political decision based whether his peers stroke or harm his ego.

This is someone who has no sense of right or wrong. He's an organism covered with a layer of human skin, but underneath it's an inhuman creature who feels no pain of others, and focused only with his self presevation.

What's sad is his ability to bullshit and put on a well-dressed, seemingly charismatic front fooled enough people in this country to believe in him and vote for him.

He's done worst damage to this country than our enemies have done.

What's funny is a lot of Republicans still believe backing him means the Republicans continue to hold onto power, and therefore they can ignore or sacrifice all the damages he has done to this republic.

I think history will show that the Republican party got more than they asked for in this deal with the devil.