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Old 05-22-2020, 07:42 PM
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Yeah, this site does not make multi quoting easy. Takes me awhile as I usually open up people's quotes in multiple tabs and copy/paste from those into my main editing tab. It's tedious, but my OCD makes me do it. You can also use generic quote boxes using the button above the text window. It won't say who said what, but will add the blue box.

Hopefully, the trend down continues and you guys will feel safe returning to your home in Dallas at whatever time your ready. Fingers crossed cov19 peeters out so it can be sooner than later.



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We aren't staying away from Dallas because of CD. Wife's father has about 2 months or less to live. We are very likely staying for the duration.
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Old 05-22-2020, 07:52 PM
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We aren't staying away from Dallas because of CD. Wife's father has about 2 months or less to live. We are very likely staying for the duration.

I pray peace be upon your family, and with your wife especially.
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Old 05-22-2020, 08:24 PM
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I am trying to put together a plan to take a little break. I have a property in Branson, and I am hoping I can get away for a bit.

A vacation sounds so good right now. I am a bit frazzled.
We had to cancel our family reunion in Marco Island, FL scheduled for end of June. Just not comfortable enough travelling with all that is going on. Plus hard to enjoy a beach vacation while worrying about social distancing, crowds, and masks. Was going to restart a childhood family tradition my grandparents used to do every year when we were kids. Hopefully next year, as we booked this a year ago and are bummed. Compared to some, missing a vacation is certainly not the end of the world, though we only take one every 3 or 4 years. But telling a 6 year old she's not going to the beach or seeing Disney world after all sucks. Same for telling her 3 year old brother, but he doesn't understand as well as she.

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We aren't staying away from Dallas because of CD. Wife's father has about 2 months or less to live. We are very likely staying for the duration.
Ah. Sorry to hear that. Without knowing any details, I hope it's good time spent with him for your wife rather than the alternative.
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We had to cancel our family reunion in Marco Island, FL scheduled for end of June. Just not comfortable enough travelling with all that is going on. Plus hard to enjoy a beach vacation while worrying about social distancing, crowds, and masks. Was going to restart a childhood family tradition my grandparents used to do every year when we were kids. Hopefully next year, as we booked this a year ago and are bummed. Compared to some, missing a vacation is certainly not the end of the world, though we only take one every 3 or 4 years. But telling a 6 year old she's not going to the beach or seeing Disney world after all sucks. Same for telling her 3 year old brother, but he doesn't understand as well as she.
Yeah thatís a bummer. The kids have really had it hard throughout this quarantine. For some their lives have been turned upside, and itís quite depressing.

I am taking my time planning, nothing immediately in the works. But at some point, although I am Blessed with a beautiful home, need a different scene. You know just to change it up, reflect on how life was prior to all this, and try to figure out how to proceed accordingly.

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Ah. Sorry to hear that. Without knowing any details, I hope it's good time spent with him for your wife rather than the alternative.
I share the same sentiment.
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Old 05-22-2020, 10:18 PM
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I wonder when and how Disney gets back to operations myself. The Mrs. and I still have to see Epcot Center. Disney management is supposed to submit a proposal to Orange County officials (Orlando) for the reopening of the parks this coming week but Disney Springs (restaurants and shopping village) opened 2 days ago. Those safety measures to enter the village are masks required ages 3 and up (must provide your own masks), a temperature screening at entry and 6' social distancing. All surface parking lots remain closed and visitors must park in the orange or lime parking garages.

https://allears.net/2020/05/21/news-...ate-next-week/

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Old 05-23-2020, 12:02 AM
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RE: X5 Unrelated, but Good Information in Times of Need

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...rus-cases.html

Not the greatest but it's organized pretty well just go up one level and pick your state. Then bookmark it.

Most of the states are having a decent drop in the death rates.

The CDC just released new data that is very promising. They estimate about 35% or cases have no symptoms and when that is factored in, it brings the fatality rate to 0.4%. That's 10% of the rate that brought the lock down to us. That's like 3-4x as bad as the flu but it's no ebola bad.


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Old 05-23-2020, 01:01 AM
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They may 16 data is on CDC site for Nationwide hospitalization.

1500 beds out of 925,000

1500/925000=0.2%

So 1/5 of 1% of the USA's hospital beds are in use treating covid 19.

We over shot the goal of not going over 100 of capacity by a factor of 50-60.

Of course *some hospitals were completely packed but they have these magical boxes with wheels and engines.

Point is back to my original comments on yr his thread. We can handle the cases that come. We probably do not need to wear masks outside the house and especially not if you aren't the one infected.

Time machine history will show the entire lockdown was not needed at all. Isolate the high risk and use PPD like crazy when interfacing with high risk people and mandate for sick people.

I am in Chicago again, I will probably have to go to a couple stores and if they didn't require It I would not feel at risk not wearing a mask as long as I could keep a few feet from people maybe hold my breath once in a while when I'm close like handing a cc or the item I'm buying to the cashier.

I will use hand sanitizer when I get to my car. Common sense.

I'm not sure exactly where the common sense went, although one therory is that another much deadlier germ was piggy backed on cv19. Ebola level of deadly and until they were sure it wasn't, they locked down the country.

I'm a facts person. The facts of today do not warrant closure of the vast majority of buisnesses including restaurants and the 6' rule which sadly is likely here to stay has not been backed with science.

I've read of some very good studies in the works getting healthy young volunteers to subject themselves to the virus to answer these questions like can you catch it from 3' away from talking not coughing etc.

The death rates are only so high when the high risk are included. It will be less enough when those people are isolated, catching cv19 will be a common thing like a cold, treated as such. Hopefully they will get a vaccine that at least helps like with the flu so that can be an equivalent to isolation.

Without the flu vaccine, I have no doubt it would be as deadly as cv19. Also medicine will catch up. Docs were killing people with ventilators because they weren't the correct treatment they needed the likes of an iron lung. If cv19 is here to stay next year will be like a flu season. We will have a flu season and a CV season.

People will freak out when somebody sneezes but It won't shut down the entire GM plant when one person gets CV.

There is a 20 lag from cases to death on average, so it takes three weeks to confirm that a case trend is rising or falling but most states are dropping and the ones that opened up and aren't dropping the death rate is staying the same. That equates to a minor adjustment in the curves but as long as it doesn't start a new exponential growth it will be in the anti-log asymptote zone of the curve and will resolve itself.

A major factor and why I say with confidence we are in the final stages is: 1) after researching the data from 15 or so pandemic class viruses, 100% follow the logistics curve and I'm going with the odds
2) viruses tend so self limit because the sick people stay in bed, that greatly limits the ability of the virus to find a new host
3) many cases of a "tie" where the host dies. If an estimated 10,000 infected people kicked this thing off, 100,000 dying is a huge step in squashing the thing out of existence.

That's an estimated 210,000 people that won't contact cv from them. They all deserve a posthumous pueoly heart and I'm serious. They "gave their life to save another". They most likely didn't do It voluntarily but that still is the reality.

Now jump in the hot tub with me and let's explore March 2020 with 20/20 hindsight.

The world shut down for one primary reason: to make sure the hospitals could keep up.

The closest we came was maybe 0.432% of all the hospital beds. (let's say some of the numbers are wrong and multiply by 10: we get to FOUR percent!

The facts that back this logic are the almost completely empty beds on all but one of the field hospitals that we spent $660 million building.

They treated maybe 3000-5000 patients including at the Jarvis in NYC the ONLY one that was really ever used.

So we spent "a small house" (132,000) for EVERY patient treated at a field hospital.

These are extremely important facts that are kept from the public. How many of you have seen this info?

The goalposts have been moved so many times we can't see them.

The original 15 day chill pill will be shown to be the perfect amount of time to make a tiny course correction and save the USA economy and 20,000,000 jobs. We can't unwind and do it over but we can be "not ignorant" if we get bitch slapped by the thing again.
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I'm not sure exactly where the common sense went.
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Old 05-23-2020, 02:28 AM
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Great research Andrew. Thank you for your level of information. It is so sad that people like me (and many others) have been tested to the brink of bankruptcy. My family will make it but burning through our savings for the last month and I still have a month to go before seeing any real kind of normal schedule.
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I've joked many times that I'm self-unemployed. Now it's official. The most helpful thing to come out of CV Cates act was the miracle of adding self employed people to the plan!

Wife and I are both self employed and if they ever get their shit together the back pay will almost exactly match our lost gross income.

I have been doing just enough work to get my bills paid about a week late (fortunately att has eliminated late fees do to CV)

Wife is freaking out because no sign that UI is ever coming after a month.

Both our cars need $400-600 in parts. We both need tires. It's a huge problem.

If I don't get the UI by next week I'll have to borrow against it from friends or family.

The stimulus $ was a godsend. It covered most of our bills for two months but that is gone and it's very tight.

I spent a good amount on some emergency food ive been wanting to get for years. 25 yr shelf stable. One of YouTube channels I watch had a promotion that was 33% off saving $100

I'll look if I can find the link. With the discount it's very reasonable price.

You get enough food to feed somebody 2000 call/day for a month for $200 with the deal. $300 was rough $200 is very fair.

I live upstairs of my dad's house so I had him chip in we got 3 sets. Enough to feed me, wife, son and my dad for 2-4 weeks (depending how we ration).

We had a huge "dodged a bullet" since this time around the grocery stores were still active but next time?


https://mypatriotsupply.com/pages/rs...gh-impact-flix

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