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The CDC, WHO and NIH are held to best practice standards. The data requirements required before a conclusion is provided to the public takes longer to develop. They are not political organizations. Data for these organizations are largely dependent on reporting from countries and from states and counties. These organizations aren't hiding anything.

IMO politicians such as Ted Cruz and Rand Paul and of course Fox not news that have their head up Trump's rump and unqualified individuals that instigate the mistrust and doubt. The Yahoo article is an example of false, distorted and taken out of context information. It perpetuates this divide of facts and fiction that the American public is smothered in and takes sides from largely based on political affiliation rather than facts.

If one wants to find endorsement for whatever they believe in they can find it on the internet. https://www.theguardian.com/science/...conspiracy-bob
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“It gets really exhausting when you see the private sector working faster than the premier public health agency of the world,” Rivera said.
I don't think that surprises... anyone.

The lack of transparency with the data is a shame. Whatever their justification for it will always leave room for doubt and mistrust. Just release the data and let the public ingest it. You then can't be blamed for trying to skew it towards a political end. The worst thing our politicians ever did for the pandemic response was not providing a unified front and just releasing data as it's received. But as usual... I don't think that surprises anyone.
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I don't think that surprises... anyone.



The lack of transparency with the data is a shame. Whatever their justification for it will always leave room for doubt and mistrust. Just release the data and let the public ingest it. You then can't be blamed for trying to skew it towards a political end. The worst thing our politicians ever did for the pandemic response was not providing a unified front and just releasing data as it's received. But as usual... I don't think that surprises anyone.

Who is going to be held responsible for the lack of transparency, and the outright lies that went on throughout this pandemic?
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Who is going to be held responsible for the lack of transparency, and the outright lies that went on throughout this pandemic?
I think you know the answer to that. The branches of gov't make the rules... so everyone goes unpunished. Ajit Pai for falsifying public polls for net neutrality, Pelosi (and many others on both sides of the aisle) for stocks, Trump for business earnings tied to public office, and the list could go on and on.

And now, since gov't and corporate worlds are so incestuous... corporate executives are afforded the same immunity. See, the aforementioned Ajit Pai as a perfect example. He has hopped between corporate employment and public "service" for his entire working life.

https://www.opensecrets.org/revolvin...y.php?id=78736

At this point, until Citizens United is overturned and lobbying is outlawed, I'm done with politics in our country. I voted against the incumbent in every election since 2012 and will continue to do so until the above criteria are met. There's a special place in Hell reserved for politicians. All of them. /rant

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I think you know the answer to that. The branches of gov't make the rules... so everyone goes unpunished. Ajit Pai for falsifying public polls for net neutrality, Pelosi (and many others on both sides of the aisle) for stocks, Trump for business earnings tied to public office, and the list could go on and on.

And now, since gov't and corporate worlds are so incestuous... corporate executives are afforded the same immunity. See, the aforementioned Ajit Pai as a perfect example. He has hopped between corporate employment and public "service" for his entire working life.

https://www.opensecrets.org/revolvin...y.php?id=78736

At this point, until Citizens United is overturned and lobbying is outlawed, I'm done with politics in our country. I voted against the incumbent in every election since 2012 and will continue to do so until the above criteria are met. There's a special place in Hell reserved for politicians. All of them. /rant

And term limits would help a bunch.
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Who is going to be held responsible for the lack of transparency, and the outright lies that went on throughout this pandemic?

lol


lemme guess. The 'true' data would have shown:


it wasnt really a big deal, we over-reacted and shut down too much and
vaccines really didnt help, and
hydroxychloroquine really works, and
and
and




your yahoo link didnt work, BTW


or you just need to string up Fauci over facemasks?
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lol lemme guess.
Lemme help YoU out..

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The 'true' data would have shown:

it wasnt really a big deal, we over-reacted and shut down too much and
vaccines really didnt help, and
hydroxychloroquine really works, and
and
and
I could care less about any of what you have posted above, other than your statement, “it wasn’t really a big deal”. I hope your not that ignorant.?!

I survived the virus! And, without vaccinations! Just Motrin, and an inhaler. So no, you guessed incorrectly.

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Oh well…

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or you just need to string up Fauci over facemasks?
Fauci never got in my way personally. I was never trippin on him. Besides, he has his own issues to worry about right now, being covid positive and all.

BTW.., The world still doesn’t have clear answers to the whole covid situation. Lies still exist, and it seems you don’t have a clue either.

A suggestion to YoU, go educate yourself! Lemme grab you a napkin, wipe your face, you’ve got some ignorance on it.
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Lemme help YoU out..



I could care less about any of what you have posted above, other than your statement, “it wasn’t really a big deal”. I hope your not that ignorant.?!

I survived the virus! And, without vaccinations! Just Motrin, and an inhaler. So no, you guessed incorrectly.


Oh well…



Fauci never got in my way personally. I was never trippin on him. Besides, he has his own issues to worry about right now, being covid positive and all.

BTW.., The world still doesn’t have clear answers to the whole covid situation. Lies still exist, and it seems you don’t have a clue either.

A suggestion to YoU, go educate yourself! Lemme grab you a napkin, wipe your face, you’ve got some ignorance on it.
https://courseforanger.com/states/TX...SAAEgJdefD_BwE
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Lemme help YoU out..

I could care less about any of what you have posted above, other than your statement, “it wasn’t really a big deal”. I hope your not that ignorant.?

You posted you couldn't car less about another's opinion and if that is what they believe they are ignorant but you hope they are not that ignorant. That's totally unnecessary criticism.

I survived the virus! And, without vaccinations! Just Motrin, and an inhaler. So no, you guessed incorrectly.

A million people would disagree with you.How do you conclude that your COVID case is evidence the virus is no big deal. FYI, It's not over yet.

Oh well…

Fauci never got in my way personally. I was never trippin on him. Besides, he has his own issues to worry about right now, being covid positive and all.

BTW.., The world still doesn’t have clear answers to the whole covid situation. Lies still exist, and it seems you don’t have a clue either.

Another insult. Don't have a clue?

A suggestion to YoU, go educate yourself! Lemme grab you a napkin, wipe your face, you’ve got some ignorance on it.
Another insult. you say another needs more education. and wipe his face he's ignorant.
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Argumentative people argue for the sake of arguing. Never agree, never bother to understand where others are coming from. If you see them, be silent but do not agree for the sake of caving in.
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Gaslighting is a technique that undermines a person's perception of reality. It is an insidious form of manipulation. People who gaslight, spread rumors and gossip about you to others. Their ultimate goal is to victimize you.

By trivializing your emotions, the person(s) gaslighting you undoubtedly wants to gain psychological control over you. They minimize how you are feeling, what you are thinking, and convey that you are wrong in every possible way.

Blame-shifting is another common gaslighting tactic. Any discussions you have, are twisted to blame you for something.

Communicating with a person who is gaslighting you may leave you feeling like there is something wrong with you. You may be encouraged to think you are actually to blame for something, or that you're just being too sensitive.

But always remember, the person(s) gaslighting you is doing so because they have a false sense of judgment towards you, and their argument is weak.

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