I'll take Covid in Floriduh for $100...or "Is DeSantis toast?"

[Maruzo]

Originally Posted by crystalworks

You are a more optimistic person than I Maruzo. And that's nice. Leads to less worry in life I'm sure. My father is like that. He's an ardent believer in democracy and our system. I believe in democracy as well. I just don't believe that's necessarily what have now. I think we are more an oligarchy now. And the powers that be are sowing the 50/50 split of the country because it's easy to maintain the status quo when you do that. Career politician should not be a thing. The Sacklers should not walk away with billions after poisoning a generation. You could go on and on.

But I digress. I don't believe that any amount of vaccination is going to eradicate CV19. China has the strictest policies in the world and they just had a flare up. If I thought there was at least a decent chance (I don't know >=25%) to eliminate covid I might be more inclined to support mandates.

The most important thing for me is that the vaccine does its job in me, my family, and my friends. We'll keep wearing masks indoors/crowds and avoid large indoor gatherings. Eventually, like other virus' there will be a mutation requiring a new vaccine, or a booster of the current. Well, we're already at that point I suppose.

I think you're being overly cautious in your attempt to not hurt other people's feelings, or fearing that you will trample upon their freedom by endorsing a strategy that you yourself believe in, that will help end this pandemic(read: reduce to the point of negligible amount that it no longer poses a risk to the general public, not using the word eradicate as I also believe it's a bit too certain bordering on being cocky).

You are that unwilling knight in King Arthur's cicle of knights, who didn't believe he's found a king worthy of his sword when he first met King Arthur.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-N8CLLoqU

Step up and endorse the vaccine. You took it, your whole family took it, what's so hard about singing it's praises?

Stay positive and know that there's more of us who also believe in it.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Maruzo

I think you're being overly cautious in your attempt to not hurt other people's feelings, or fearing that you will trample upon their freedom by endorsing a strategy that you yourself believe in, that will help end this pandemic(read: reduce to the point of negligible amount that it no longer poses a risk to the general public, not using the word eradicate as I also believe it's a bit too certain bordering on being cocky).

You are that unwilling knight in King Arthur's cicle of knights, who didn't believe he's found a king worthy of his sword when he first met King Arthur.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-N8CLLoqU

Step up and endorse the vaccine. You took it, your whole family took it, what's so hard about singing it's praises?

Stay positive and know that there's more of us who also believe in it.

Great clip!

[Maruzo]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

Great clip!

Thanks. If Covid vaccine is King Arthur, then BC you are Lancelot, its greatest champion.

Good thing we do not have a Guinevere in this analogy or it'll backfire spectacularly.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Maruzo

Thanks. If Covid vaccine is King Arthur, then BC you are Lancelot, its greatest champion.

Good thing we do not have a Guinevere in this analogy or it'll backfire spectacularly.

[Happy]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

The vaccines are not gene therapy. They do not change genes.

None of us know for sure how many are not influenced by Trump. I have posted my sources. Where's yours?

There is no indication that the vaccines are not safe. Millions upon millions of people around the world have had no problems with the vaccines. I can't imagine what is necessary to be completely sure. Enlighten me.

Thinking for ones self is knowing when one is not qualified to make an informed decision and because of that seeking the expertise in that field.

Are you saying the vaccines are not therapeutics? Are they not genetically modified? You’re saying it is a traditional vaccine, not one that interacts with gene codes?

https://www.genome.gov/genetics-glossary/messenger-rna

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21603/

Trumps influence is of no importance to me.

I’m not saying the vaccines are safe or not. I am just not in a position at this time to expose my body to those types of therapies until further trials are performed.

I don’t believe the CDC is qualified to say the vaccines are 99.9% safe until further trials are conducted. JMHO.

Originally Posted by bcredliner

I haven't heard anyone say it's my way or the highway. I know I haven't. That is your interpretation. I have provided sources for all my posts. What else would you like that would not be a flimsy argument in your opinion?

No, you have not made those types of statements to me personally. Although, you are very strong in your opinion of those that are unvaccinated and the vaccines in general.

CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, etc. all have this, “my way, or the highway” attitude on certain aspects of this pandemic. That was what I was conveying.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Happy

Are you saying the vaccines are not therapeutics? Are they not genetically modified? You’re saying it is a traditional vaccine, not one that interacts with gene codes?

https://www.genome.gov/genetics-glossary/messenger-rna

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21603/

Trumps influence is of no importance to me.

I’m not saying the vaccines are safe or not. I am just not in a position at this time to expose my body to those types of therapies until further trials are performed.

I don’t believe the CDC is qualified to say the vaccines are 99.9% safe until further trials are conducted. JMHO.




No, you have not made those types of statements to me personally. Although, you are very strong in your opinion of those that are unvaccinated and the vaccines in general.

CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, etc. all have this, “my way, or the highway” attitude on certain aspects of this pandemic. That was what I was conveying.

My opinions of getting vaccinated are no stronger than the opinions of those that won't consider vaccination. When what I post is an opinion I will say I think or IMO. The rest are facts often with one of the references posted. Anytime I post something as fact but without a reference feel free to ask for my source.

[crystalworks]

Originally Posted by Maruzo

I think you're being overly cautious in your attempt to not hurt other people's feelings, or fearing that you will trample upon their freedom by endorsing a strategy that you yourself believe in, that will help end this pandemic(read: reduce to the point of negligible amount that it no longer poses a risk to the general public, not using the word eradicate as I also believe it's a bit too certain bordering on being cocky).

You are that unwilling knight in King Arthur's cicle of knights, who didn't believe he's found a king worthy of his sword when he first met King Arthur.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-N8CLLoqU

Step up and endorse the vaccine. You took it, your whole family took it, what's so hard about singing it's praises?

Stay positive and know that there's more of us who also believe in it.

I am neither cheerleader nor evangelist. People can make up their own minds. We all have access to the data in this day and age. Each can interpret it as they see fit.

Besides that, in the off chance the vaccine does cause some unforeseen effects down the road. However unlikely... I don't want that bad jujus on my conscience. "Don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby!"

In Arthurian legend I feel more like I would be the blacksmith watching the privileged nights ride off in search of the Grail along with their messiah. Most of them to fail, including Arthur. I need to watch that movie from the clip, haven't seen that telling. I enjoy most myths and legends; Norse, Greek, etc.

Hah, favorite rendition of the Grail legend is from Monty Python. So good. And the below Gif is somewhat applicable to mandates, FISA courts, and citizen surveillance.

[Happy]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cheap-ant...223735055.html

This is what I mean. It’s something new everyday!

I swear my head is on a swivel!

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Happy

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cheap-ant...223735055.html

This is what I mean. It’s something new everyday!

I swear my head is on a swivel!

What is important to note is that it is just a study. And a very small study which must be verified. It would be great iif after adequate studies it does actually work. Hopefully, there is something new each day that might be a worthwhile treatment or prevention of COVID. That's good. That gives me hope that someone somewhere in the world is working on something that will eradicate COVID completely.

[Happy]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

What is important to note is that it is just a study. And a very small study which must be verified. It would be great iif after adequate studies it does actually work. Hopefully, there is something new each day that might be a worthwhile treatment or prevention of COVID. That's good. That gives me hope that someone somewhere in the world is working on something that will eradicate COVID completely.

I like your optimistic outlook. Some are now up to 4 jabs, per CDC. Something has to give, at least that is what I hope and pray for.