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Old 05-28-2020, 06:46 PM
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I believe he's referencing his 1st post with the fact that vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin so taking a supplement makes it possible to overdose on it. Generally speaking a water soluble vitamin can't be overdosed on as you'll piss it away but those in fat will just build up to a toxic level. Or maybe the beef jerky look will be back in fashion

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Or/and it mutates to a less deadly strain. There is speculation Singapore's strain is weaker and is the cause for their good looking figures. But I haven't seen any actual studies backing that up.

Edit: I agree with that article that the virus probably going to be a 5th coronavirus that goes through infection cycles. A vaccine will eventually be developed but it will be like getting the flu vaccine. Some of the other stuff in the article is pie in the sky stuff like touchless doors at every business and all crosswalk buttons being touchless. I'm sure some businesses will implement these additions (some have had them for decades already) but widespread total adoption seems far-fetched.

For the first month or so I was worried about this virus killing larger swathes of the population and was very concerned. Now, I'm still concerned, but really only worry about the lives of my and my wife's parents. We will continue to wear masks and not see them if we have recently been sick. Basically flu precautions with the addition of the mask when going into public. Definitely won't eat out at a sit down restaurant for a loooooong time.

My major concern has shifted to the unemployment and domestic supply-side issues more than covid19. Plus the ballooning national debt, possible inflation. Then add a dash of concern over China possibly being more culpable than is currently known and triggering conflict.

100,000 dead now and 41,000,000 unemployed. Sad times indeed.

Edit x2:. Also would add taking a vitamin d supplement can't hurt. We have been taking it after seeing some of the data coming out. Zinc is also supposed to help. All of this is to boost the immune system and shows effectiveness at preventing infection as well as lowering the severity of symptoms should you get infected.
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Old 07-03-2020, 04:50 PM
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It's been 30 days since my last post. The positive cases went from 20,000 daily average to 52,000 this week.

The cases were holding steady at 20,000+ in the month of May, that's due to efforts of containment via stay at home orders, social distancing, mask wearing, etc.

If we had kept up the containment efforts for another month, the number would have gone down drastically.

Instead we went the opposite way. Once the restrictions were lifted, all hell broke loose. We're now suffering the results of the carelessness and disregard for safety protocol.

We have lost control of the pandemic, again. And this time the infected nymbers is much worse than the previous height.

America has failed in its fight to stop this pandemic.
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It's been 30 days since my last post. The positive cases went from 20,000 daily average to 52,000 this week.

The cases were holding steady at 20,000+ in the month of May, that's due to efforts of containment via stay at home orders, social distancing, mask wearing, etc.

If we had kept up the containment efforts for another month, the number would have gone down drastically.

Instead we went the opposite way. Once the restrictions were lifted, all hell broke loose. We're now suffering the results of the carelessness and disregard for safety protocol.

We have lost control of the pandemic, again. And this time the infected nymbers is much worse than the previous height.

America has failed in its fight to stop this pandemic.

Expect economic disater to follow soon.
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If mask wearing had always been required, bars and restaurants kept closed, and large gatherings stayed restricted... we could have had all regular retail businesses open the entire time. Buuuuuut nooooooo... people are people, selfish until it affects them personally. I have family that acts this way and then gets mad when we don't want to visit with the kids. Luckily my parents are taking this seriously so we can at least go visit them.

Really, it was Memorial Day, the protests, and bars/restaurants opening all happening at the same time that triggered this huge spike. It was predicted, and it's happening.

I'm telling you, just want my couple of acres outside town and then all these morons, my family included, can have at it.
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What would have happened if Trump decided to maintain the stay at home orders for another month?

We would have to pay more unemployment and businesses would continue to suffer. But we would have a much more manageable situation, instead of the full blown crisis. That would translate to savings in financial costs in the long run, and a stronger economy to follow.

But now, this pandemic is seemingly more and more getting out of hand.

I kept looking at how China is suppressing the virus anyway possible, and looking inward only to find how every one here is using any means possible to dodge and avoid doing what needs to be done to contain it.

I'm convinced that we did ourselves in.

It's not an unbeatable crisis, yet we've lost in a most spectacular fashion.

Countries with much less resources and technology, and much higher population density, has come out of this crisis in much better shape than us.

The ego, pride, ignorance, and social bias that Americans have, plus an imbecile leader, has done its job and made us the laughing stock of the world.
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I think you are looking through a biased lens as well though. Trump can not mandate stay at home. Or anything else. Governor's can. This is NOT Trump's fault. He didn't help for sure. But first and foremost, this is the American public's fault. Governors could have helped the situation but when it comes down to brass tacks, the public is to blame. If we aren't intelligent enough to govern our own health we deserve what we get.

And I don't want ANYTHING China is doing to become policy here in America. If that happens, the republic has failed.
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Not really. I left Asia close to 40 years ago. My thought process is structured more like a westerner than an Asian.

I wouldn't want America to turn into another China either. But there's somethings they're doing efficiently that we can learn from.

Fast contact tracing, quarantine, face mask. Their citizens caught on quick and followed the guidelines to a tee.

Granted you can say they have to or suffer jail time, which is a direct violation of their human rights.

But look where the insistence on personal rights and freedoms got us this year.

If we can't learn and adopt the right way to fight an emerging threat like Covid, we might as well go the ways of the Neanderthals and fade away.

Besides China, there are other countries who have been successful at fighting this pandemic. Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, Germany, New Zealand, Australia.

Geez, it's like who isn't better than the US at fighting this virus.

Personally, I don't think Americans are too dumb or arrogant that they refuse to do what's logical to contain Covid.

I think the fact that this country hasn't been directly involved in national conflicts for the past 75 years (since WWII) relaxed and atrophied the fight or flight instinct of the entire population.

Countries that have been involved in deadly conflicts inside it's national border recently tends to remember the frailty of the human condition and act with a sense of urgency when disasters surfaces.

We seem to have lost that sense of urgency. Whatever sxxt happens we simply shrug it off because it can't be more important than our daily routine of fun and personal satisfaction.

The other thing that's worth thinking about is, we tend to be better at dealing with conflicts when it's not happening in our homeland.

Because when we're dealing with it in say a country like Iraq, we send out soldiers to take care of the conflict. And soldiers follow orders instead of their "personal freedoms".
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Old 07-03-2020, 09:30 PM
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I shouldn't say anything I suppose. Contact tracing and face masks are acceptable policy I would think. But China's social score policy and oppression is ridiculous. I am relieved bars are closed again and we have mandatory face coverings in Texas now. San Antonio was pro active about it before the governor finally realized he screwed up.

Other comparisons are very difficult simply due to all the different variables involved. Different tourism, land mass, population densities, demographics, etc. I've never subscribed to the "if we'd just been like, x" train of thought because of that. X being a chosen country of comparison.

But I stand by my belief that personal responsibility trumps (no pun intended) anything gov't should force us to do. Hopefully the ones not following guidelines are the ones who are affected most. Darwin awards can be handed out later. All we can do is protect ourselves.
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I agree with you. At the end of the day we're all responsible for our own health and safety.

But there's the problem. People in general don't know what's good for them.

And the cultural and societal tendencies of America makes it that much harder for our people to realize what's good for them.

You can have 75% of the population agreeing that the guidelines are really important and much be followed to a tee.

Yet there's nothing you can say or do that can change the minds of the remaining 25% of the population to follow the guidelines.

Logically, that means America is doomed to fail this fight against Covid.

Or any other similar type of viruses that is sure to come in the future. Given the drastically increasing global population density and the scarcity of resources.

It's funny, we survived the threat of nuclear weapons and the cold war, only to be defeated by the smallest of an adversary, an insignificant strain of molecular proteins.

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